EoFF Mafia XXVIII Game Thread - Banquet of the Voyager Witches

[Mr. Carnelian]

The fact that you're pushing so hard to get statements out is similar to pushing for roleclaims

Just to be clear, I'm not of the opinion that keeping your red statements to yourself means you're a witch. I just think that the net benefit of sharing them is greater for town than keeping them to ourselved. You disagree, and that's fine.

What I will say is that I think that keeping the red statements hidden is what Karifean wants us to do. He wants us to stay all in the dark and confused because that will make the game more interesting. I say we screw that noise and act unexpectedly. Power to the people!

I am kinda surprised that Carny is volunteering a tribute which makes me question his flavour. I mean it is true that it is an easy way to find out that Formy is lying or not. However, there are a few flaws. First, we do not know if there is a current Alchemist who has this role to decide since the rule was vague regarding that.

Which is why I said wait until someone is dead.

Second, there are 9 of us so impossible to have a tie unless someone doesn't vote or votes a third way.

Didn't think of that, but easily solved: wait until there an even number of players. Alternatively, I volunteer to abstain. Still need to wait until someone's dead, though.

Third, this can easily result in a lockdown after the 24 hour mark if the third/abstain vote switches sides.

If someone switches after a concensus of us have agreed to a draw vote, then they're probably a witch, so swe learn something valuable even so.

So this is a really bad idea which either makes me think it wasn't thought through

I have totally thought this through. I'm not saying we have to do it, but if we feel that it becomes necessary to test Formy's truth, I'm willing to be the one to put my neck on the line

Seems like a bad idea, unless you wanted to bait a witch too while you are at it so if someone decides to break the tie since we are odd that would point to them being a witch.

Exactly, someone switching their vote to stop a draw would point to them being a witch, and we'd know something new. Also, we'd know for sure whether Formy's red statement was true or not. If it's not true, he's a witch. If it is true he COULD be a witch, but at least we know a valuable rule.

Again, not saying we have to do this, just that we can. I realise that this isn't a normal strategy, but this isn't a normal mafia game. Yes, I might end up dead if we go through with this idea, but I'm thinking strategically here: town can still win whether I personally am alive or not.