But then wouldn't it follow by saying Carny is Pained then activates it? It seems ambiguous.Originally Posted by Formalhaut
I think it would. If the point of having that Pained status is to keep it hidden, that'd probably go against the spirit of the role, so I imagine saying "I'm Pained" would trigger it as much as saying your identity or ability would. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.
Honestly between Pumpkin and Fynn if either were a Pained, it'd be more likely Fynn. Pained is supposed to discourage roleclaim. Having our version of cop being Pained would make the most sense given that it would prevent the cop from explicitly claiming their role. It would add danger to it (though I do realize that with an active Mafia it would be always dangerous to claim cop).
Also, you said you'd be more suspicious of the second person to roleclaim. As a witch I can't be Pained since they are human-aligned. The second would be Fynn. He claimed after there was effectively no more Mafia and I had offered the Cynic up. More so, he was dropping enough hints beforehand that it wasn't that surprising when he revealed. He had already covertly established himself as the cop then why did he do a full reveal? We didn't really doubt him. Maybe he was hoping to use the chaos I triggered to so his claim would seem normal and people would be paying me and Scruff more attention.
Then there is the fact that if a Pained was trigger we might not be aware of it. However, they would be eager to go for easy lynches as it wouldn't draw attention to them. While I admit the Cynic had to go, I'm the next easy target. Rushing to vote out the easiest target without any discussion because they're "obvious". What will be obvious is after I'm railroad into a lynch and we still don't win is that there is a Pained in play and he's been using this distraction as cover.
I wouldn't worry too much about Carny being Pained just because he hasn't claimed yet.
