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    Do you consider it a JRPG? I always considered it a WRPG made in Japan.
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    Pretty much same here, though I barely even consider it an RPG at all. The plot is purely behind the scenes, armor and stat progression are generally considered fluff, where weapon upgrades and skilled player input are generally more important. Not a lot of RPGs are "master this combat". I see it as straddling the line the way Zelda does, but for totally different reasons. Which hardly matters. The fact that you don't play as a teenager coming of age, and nobody overtly plays a cliche'd archetype character makes it more western to me, regardless of setting or genre



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    Well, I mean isn't Cloud an adult? He's like the face of JRPGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart Loire View Post
    Well, I mean isn't Cloud an adult? He's like the face of JRPGs.
    Well, does Cloud do his own laundry? That's the main question here.

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    I do consider it a JRPG just to make the point that the term 'JRPG' is stupid and should be killed immediately. Like... there are bad genre labels and then there are bad​ genre labels and JRPG is the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart Loire View Post
    Well, I mean isn't Cloud an adult? He's like the face of JRPGs.
    Well, does Cloud do his own laundry? That's the main question here.
    Exactly. Turning 21 doesn't magically turn you into an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I do consider it a JRPG just to make the point that the term 'JRPG' is stupid and should be killed immediately. Like... there are bad genre labels and then there are bad​ genre labels and JRPG is the latter.
    What do you hate about the label?
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    I think the problem is that people often use JRPG in A derogatory manner, as if to say they are inherently inferior to other RPGs because of tropes that they often contain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart Loire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I do consider it a JRPG just to make the point that the term 'JRPG' is stupid and should be killed immediately. Like... there are bad genre labels and then there are bad​ genre labels and JRPG is the latter.
    What do you hate about the label?
    The fact that everything from Tales to Final Fantasy to Valkyria Chronicles apparently counts as a 'JRPG' despite being such incredibly different games. And Dark Souls either does (because it's an RPG made in Japan, duh) or doesn't (because it's not animu) depending on who you ask. So it's just a mind-bogglingly confusing term which also shoehorns Japanese games into a limited set of stereotypes. I mean I've seen Senran Kagura be labelled 'JRPG' for god's sake. It's a brawler!

    The same applies to WRPG, that's an awful term as well. Although it tends to be used less racist-ly when compared to JRPG so it's not quite so bad.

    Example of what I mean by the above:
    "[Game name] has a cast of interesting characters that don't rely on tropes and interesting game mechanics that encourage exploration, unlike other JRPGS"

    ^ That's quite a common style of sentence to read in a review of games like Tales of Berseria, Fire Emblem, Valkyria Chronicles... you know, good games that tend to get lumped under the 'JRPG' label. There is quite a strong bias against "typical JRPGs" so games with that label tend to be dismissed with a lot of unfair assumptions until they specifically prove otherwise.

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    Yeah a lot of people use it as a derogatory term.
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    Another one I like - "Japanese Sensibilities"

    BEcause OBVIOUSLY Motomu Toriyama and Yasumi Matsuno embody the same sensibilities because they're both Japanese

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    I hope one day 'western sensibilities' == 'being a massive trouting weeb'.

    Because that's a world I can get excited about.

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    I still think there needs to be a differentiation between the two though. FF, DQ, SMT, Xeno, Tales, etc. are different from Skyrim, Dragon Age, Witcher, etc.
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    But then there's stuff like Dark Souls on one end, and Septerra Core and Child of LIght on the other and it all falls apart

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    I haven't played those two. Do they feel like JRPGs to you?
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