Quote Originally Posted by Lil Sis
- If Raven is a Miller with no active role, what 'information' does he have to make him "80% sure" of Jade's guilt?
- This was AFTER Jade voted to lynch Lloyd, who was confirmed to be a Mafia roleblocker.
- Raven, although going along with us in the conversation... did not vote to lynch Lloyd.

So, the guy who didn't vote for the Mafia member when we were all pretty certain he was Mafia (and indeed turned out to be) is somehow, despite having no special ability, 80% confident that Jade is a) mafia and b) voted to lynch his own comrade.

It's not that I don't trust you Pascal, it's that I sure as heck don't trust Raven.
Okay, you have some a decent observation, and I agree that Raven's post isn't exactly hard evidence. However, using the argument that not voting for Lloyd makes him suspicious isn't very strong. Barely any of you did, even with very strong evidence.

Heck, one of the people who did is still on my mafia list. A little while ago, I had a list of Jade, Raven, and Rowen.

I think I can safely remove Rowen for now, but that still leaves Jade, Raven, and maybe you and Anise. I still think you're just stubborn, but I'm not happy with Anise conveniently being out of the conversation again.

As far as the skit, we now know that Ascethic is indeed a town role, so tracker would have shown up during an investigation if they were mafia.

Also, I went back through the thread, and Eizen only ever voted for Velvet that I can see. Someone feel free to go back and double check, I could have missed it. Anyway, if that's correct then Velvet is not our Miller.