So I have been watching and flipping my hair all day and the one person I get a scum read off of is Aaron. I understood Roslin's vote for me as she backed it up with some reason.
Aaron's looked like a tag along vote to try and get something moving. I could see if he had anything to back it up I could accept his vote, but he didn't. So that is why I will...
##Vote: Aaron
I'm wondering about that too. I get the scumhunt thing and it's a good way to get discussion going so we can start to find some inconsistencies, but you claim Dee is suspicious and the vote Apollo without giving reason?
Would you like to share with the class?
Maybe you should read the thread instead of asking questions you can readily find the answers to.
I never said Dee was suspicious. She said she found me suspect because I was scumhunting, which is kinda ridiculous. It's almost like she's discouraging active participation in this game.
Second, I love how you tunnel on me voting Apollo for "no reason" (which is false), but you also blatantly overlook Apollo's vote on me which also gave no reason. Funny how that works.
In fact, this kind of incriminates you a lot more. You attempt to condescend to me, you didn't even bother to read my posts or responses to Apollo, and you defend him for doing the exact thing you're attempting to paint me as guilty for.
New scumteam is Athena-Apollo.
What? You said you were looking at her but had your eye on someone else and then voted Apollo without stating why? And then he voted for you afterwards, maybe because of your vote, maybe another reason, but what stood out to me was how you specifically called out Dee for not being helpful to town and then went ahead and voted someone else without stating why. Maybe help us out by giving us your reasoning?
Looking back on the thread all I can see is him saying that your scumhunting is clumsy and suspicions are being thrown out at random but no one is really suspicious to him so far, until his vote on you. Unless you think that because he said that he's discouraging scum hunting?
See, I don't want to assume your line of thought because what may seem obvious to you isn't to everyone else so maybe, I dunno, share and work with us instead of just vote lynching everyone and assuming we all view things the same way you do
But you're right, I did overlook Apollo's vote, so perhaps he could also share his reasoning.
Also, Roslin, the opening post says that there are 4 scum, so why do you keep making up 2 scum teams? Do you know something we don't?
I was pushed to vote for Roslin mainly because she voted for me on a flimsy basis and it annoyed me, but I stand by what I said earlier. The scumhunting is baseless to an almost laughable degree, and you've so far done nothing but point fingers this way and that without giving much reasoning beyond "I don't like the way this was posted," while also getting haughty about people being unhelpful. I don't care for that.
It's the first day, and I'm forgiving of people who don't want to immediately try for a lynch without a speck of a clue to go on. We know nothing. Your votes, no matter what you justify them with, are exactly as valid as my vote for you, because it's all empty guesswork at this point. So I'm ready to retract my vote if you're willing to share anything beyond opaque judgements.
You're right. We start off knowing nothing. So of course the first point of order is getting something to go on. Oh wait, who is it that actually attempts to get an exchange going for some clues, and who is it that undermines those attempts, saying it's all useless anyways? Scumhunting is the main weapon we have, and we had damn well better make good use of it.
Narration tells us there are 4 Mafia, meaning there are 9 Townies. This gives us 4 mislynchs before we absolutely have to get it right or lose. If we No Lynch we are literally just giving up one of our precious mislynchs. In other words, we will almost certainly want to lynch someone today. And if we do it had better be the most informed decision it can be.
To your credit at least you're engaging in discussion and explaining your viewpoint. I still think D'Anna, and also Helo, have done hardly anything but sit back and watch so far, just announcing their presence and defending roleplay, which is plausible enough for anyone but also how I could most likely see scum acting at this point. (Although admittedly those GIFs made me laugh and I do appreciate people advocating roleplay, makes me feel bad for never having experienced any of BSG myself tho)
WHOAA please let this be the thing. I was just saying last game that it would be cool if we had dueling mafias. I put it out into the universe so that would be soooo much fun.
This line of thinking is pretty interesting though. Roslin, Why say "scumteam"? Normally, you would just say scum. You wouldn't say scum team. You'd be assuming the information we have on day one from the Cylon Commander is that there are 4 total, not 2 and teams.
Besides Roslin doing Day 1 things and roleplaying there's no reason for me to not ##Vote: No Lynch
I believe your math is a bit off. Assuming all 4 scum are on the same team, we are only allowed 4 mislynches if nobody ever gets nightkilled, which is highly unlikely. Assuming all nightkills go through, we'd be in lylo on day 3 after just 2 mislynches. If we have two separate scum teams then this changes things. But the idea of separate scum facitions hadn't been brought up when you posted this, and you didn't mention it as an option yourself either. But I see no other way you could have concluded 4 mislynches was feasible without already knowing this.
##Vote: Gaius
Okay wait, let's not jump to conclusions about there being separate scum before we've heard from Roslin. I am really wondering what she meant though because she said "Caprica and Gaius are scummates."
And then later on said "New scumteam is Athena-Apollo."
Like she didn't say Athena and Apollo also scum, since we know there are 4 scum. Sp that's a bit odd. And calling them a scumteam instead of just scummates like the first example is also weird. But putting these two statements together, she really seems to be stating that scum is in teams of two, which just seems odd because I don't see where it's said that anywhere, unless I and the few who have commented on it missed something in the post or whatever.
Or maybe I'm just misinterpreting what Roslin is saying, but I would really like some clarification because it seems she might have some information that would be valuable to us
I don't think the use of the term "team" is a slip. Sports teams have 5+ people, so a scum team can easily have 4 people on it. However the fact that they always list scum in pairs of two and only two is interesting. If we do have mutli mafia, I think we have some pretty good leads on where to start. If not, then I'm very confused by Gaius.