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    *yawn* Square vs. the World

    Lately I've been listening to a lot of VGM music while I work on projects or just playing some retro titles, but I've come to the conclusion that Square, and by extension Square-Enix really does dominate in this area. I can't really think of another studio who can go soundtrack to soundtrack up against the library of titles SE has released over time and really win out on how dominating SE has always been about having stellar soundtracks.

    So, do you agree? Does SE produce the best VGM?

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    Pretty much. They’ve attracted some incredible talent over the years and while those individuals have made music for other companies as well, I feel SE has always had the biggest concentration of them.

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    Nah, Nihon Falcom has them handily beat.

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    Nope, my preference goes to Falcom's music library. On an individual OST level there are more I prefer over SE but this thread is about entire library vs entire library, and other companies do have some lesser ones.

    Falcom however, entire library vs entire library, I prefer over SE.

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    You both know you're going to have to back this up now right?

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    Don’t worry, WK. judging by the Falcon games I’ve played, these are empty threats

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    I don't see how my preference is a threat.

    I could list a bunch of their tracks but there's no guarantee you'd like them as much as I do, music is about the most subjective thing in the world

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    I was of course joking

    Subjectively speaking, I wasn’t moved by a single track in any of the Ys or Trails games I’ve played. But you should definitely share some tracks - you might get some people more interested in this series

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    Don't we win by default on the basis of having played more of the other side's libraries than you?

    Well we're comparing entire libraries I suppose, so, you get what you asked for :P

    Have the entire Ys VIII OST for their modern soundtracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4a...g4_kkNphkGXG7c

    The entire Ys III OST for their retro soundtracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBaQ...cTf8u6&index=2

    The Ys Oath in Felghana OST for a taste on how they remaster their old OSTs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXa...UIB45uWkXK1g6k

    The entire Trails of Cold Steel OST for another take on their relatively modern OSTs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9s5...GNs2m5X4O9nj66

    and the Cold Steel 2 OST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAe...1Sqsk-LIARmLgd

    ... and the Cold Steel 3 OST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-ml...GWJ2MGgI_uwNqp

    ... satisfied yet?

    Also will add that shortly after making the previous post I remember about the Touhou series which while only having around 15 tracks per OST, if you consider from the POV of having the most consistently great soundtracks in a library they pretty much beat out anything else. And they are all made by one guy all solo. Easily my pick for top composer.

    And finally, my *actual* favorite OST is not from any of these three, as that goes to Umineko. But that was a coop project between many talented doujin composers that can't well be called a studio's work at all, although they did cooperate on other projects since.

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    I find it amusing that instead of picking out a few choices, you just list the whole OST. I'm not teasing either, I just find it amusing.

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    It’s fine, WK. we’ll just come back in approx. 52 hours after we’ve listened to them in their entirety.

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    I thought that was the point =P but sure, have some standouts.

    Ys VIII















    Ys III/Felghana













    Ys Seven













    Miscellaneous other Ys









    Trails of Cold Steel























    Bonus:




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    To be fair when you're talking the scale of SE and Falcom's entire libraries, a few entire soundtracks isn't that gigantic, relatively speaking

    As for specific tracks, I'll try to focus on games Karifean hasn't mentioned:

    In some cases the names or even OST covers may contain subtle spoilers, don't blame me if you pay too much attention to them

    Trails in the Sky trilogy

































    Zero no Kiseki













    Ao no Kiseki














    Trails of Cold Steel 4































    Of course, I realise so far Karifean and I have only been calling out Ys and Trails themes, so to offset that a little:

    Various other Falcom games




























    And finally,

    Some favorite Ys themes Karifean didn't mention






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    I probably agree. Some games are up there rivaling SE spundtracks better whether any other company can compete overall I don't know, but I kind of doubt it.

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    I agree, but the scope of my games (Especially RPG'S) are pretty small. So i may just not have been exposed to something better yet

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