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  • More Episodes with less content and fast release dates

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  • Fewer Episodes with more content but later release dates

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  • Don't care

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Thread: New VII Remake Ultimania reveals SE doesn't know how long the remake will be.

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    Default New VII Remake Ultimania reveals SE doesn't know how long the remake will be.

    Some of the early translations from the new Remake Ultimania shows that the heads of the project are not so sure how long the Remake is really going to be. Kitase and Nomura have said it will depend on whether the team goes with a fast turn around time between Episodes, saying that if they choose to release the games sooner, the Episodes will be shorter and there will likely be more of them, whereas delaying episodes for a later release guarantees the episodes will be longer in content.

    I guess the question is what would the fans rather see?

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    My preference: "Just hurry the f- up SQEX."

    One possible bonus to them releasing the next title faster is they won't devote so much time and energy that there's nothing left for fixing the problems existing in Part 1.

    Anyway, unless they plan to change the gameplay mechanics, I don't think it would be wise to make the game longer. As an ARPG, I felt R was plenty long enough. Hell it felt longer than KH 1&II combined.

    It's not length that concerns me, just content. I just want what's there to pull me in.

    Also, I was tempted to vote Reagan-omics, but I don't what it is, and I'm not looking it up because I don't care.
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    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    i'd rather a complete story than have them peter off and get canceled or something. also, i don't want to be here in ten years time playing the 3rd or 4th "episode" and still only be on disc 2 in the timeline, or something stupid like that.

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    I’d rather just have three episodes (1 being Midgar, the second being the rest of disc one, and then part 3 is the rest because despite it being two discs there actually isn’t a lot of content there) with longer breaks in between. Of course, I’m pretty sure I’m wrong on the number, but I’d rather they make the episodes big and expensive and just have us wait longer because we’re all already used to that lol

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    Yeah I'd rather have it in fewer parts with a longer wait (3 years or so). I feel like they've set the bar for themselves with Part One and should learn the necessary lessons from it (adjust pacing, make side quests meaningful) and continue with that formula and meet or exceed the bar.

    I don't think they can maintain interest if they release more parts that are smaller in nature, interest will teeter off after a while and my worry there is we'll just get a repeat of the breakneck on-rails of the original XV's final acts.

    Although holy hell if they haven't decided this stuff after 3 (5+ if we count before it was rebooted internally) years of dev, they need to hire some better project managers...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aulayna View Post
    Yeah I'd rather have it in fewer parts with a longer wait (3 years or so). I feel like they've set the bar for themselves with Part One and should learn the necessary lessons from it (adjust pacing, make side quests meaningful) and continue with that formula and meet or exceed the bar.

    I don't think they can maintain interest if they release more parts that are smaller in nature, interest will teeter off after a while and my worry there is we'll just get a repeat of the breakneck on-rails of the original XV's final acts.

    Although holy hell if they haven't decided this stuff after 3 (5+ if we count before it was rebooted internally) years of dev, they need to hire some better project managers...
    My thoughts exactly!

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    I'd prefer to have 3 episodes, even if it takes more time (2-3 years) between each entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gashtacular View Post
    I don't want to be here in ten years time playing the 3rd or 4th "episode" and still only be on disc 2 in the timeline, or something stupid like that.
    You're still gonna be waiting 10 years to play the 2nd or 3rd installment if they take longer to release them. This trout is logic-based.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aulayna
    I don't think they can maintain interest if they release more parts that are smaller in nature, interest will teeter off after a while.
    Interest in FF14 hasn't petered out, how the hell do you think 7 will fair much worse?

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    Maybe, but at least you're only spending 180 total instead of 240, 300, or who even knows? That trout is logic ba$ed. !!!$$$$$$$$

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    3 episodes seems perfect.

    FFVII Remake

    FFVII Reunion

    FFVII Re-Birth


    Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Interest in FF14 hasn't petered out, how the hell do you think 7 will fair much worse?
    Because XIV is an MMORPG with a subscription model that consistently drops a new expansion every 2 years, which is a very standard business model for that genre. It's also a genre which relies a lot on social connections to maintain interest and as a result a stream of steady income for the company via subscription fees, optional services, and microtransactions. They also haven't really made any missteps since relaunching the game, nothing as divisive as say... the ending to part one of FF7R. They have a formula that works and they produce more of the same. And for the most part FFXIV doesn't require expensive hardware to play.

    And also, people fall in and out of MMORPGs all the time. The people I play FFXIV with today are very different to the ones I played with back in ARR.

    It's a totally different situation to a AAA single-player title (that is far more expensive in terms of resources) being chunked up and spread across multiple entries which are one-time purchases. Especially when there's likely going to be a hardware generation jump in there somewhere too. I think many people will be outraged at the idea of spending $60 every 1-2 years for 10 hours of gameplay, and it will lead to more people just waiting it out for the "complete collection." If interest starts waning on those it becomes a lot harder for them to remain ROI-positive. Heck, even Ubisoft realised that frequent releases don't maintain interest which is why (among other things) they increased the wait between Assassin's Creed releases. The only titles that really manage it (the CODs and FIFAs of the world), manage it largely because of the competitive online community moving over to the newest entry and the FOMO it causes.

    Like really, it was around what - March 2017 that SQEX pulled development of FFVIIR to be completely in-house following a turbulent relationship with CyberConnect 2. So the bulk of Part 1 was made in 3 years. Now that they can re-use some of the assets, and have all the engine work and systems in place, I can see them doing a Part Two of similar style in 2 years, 3 max. I'll happily wait 2-3 years for a qualitative title with hours of gameplay in it, than have something smaller rushed out every 1-1.5 years (even though I suspect the bean counters at SQEX will push for it to be as frequently as possible) to placate the impatient.
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    Well, if today's society truly enjoys balancing on their heads instead of walking on two feet, there's nothing I can do about it. Personally, it's been my opinion since the release of FFXI (or maybe since Blizzard's Warcraft) that any game you have to pay a monthly subscription for is not a game... it's a gamble. I don't go to casinos and I don't shell out monthly fees to enjoy the same game for years on end.

    It seems to me that paying a straight up fee of $70-80 dollars per installment of a game with a set length and set release is more appealing than continuing to pay out for a game you have no guarantees as to whether it might continue to be worth playing in the long-run.

    People are different. Some people enjoy wasting their money. I don't. So give me my next installment on the f-ing double.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maybee View Post
    3 episodes seems perfect.

    FFVII Remake

    FFVII Reunion

    FFVII Re-Birth


    Or something like that.
    No they need to follow the Sailor Moon naming conventions!

    Final Fantasy VII R
    Final Fantasy VII S
    Final Fantasy VII Super S
    Final Fantasy Stars


    It’s the only way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gashtacular View Post
    I don't want to be here in ten years time playing the 3rd or 4th "episode" and still only be on disc 2 in the timeline, or something stupid like that.
    You're still gonna be waiting 10 years to play the 2nd or 3rd installment if they take longer to release them. This trout is logic-based.
    your ability to miss the point is spectacular, and your style of avoiding the curse word filter is obnoxious, *snip*

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