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    Default Lol, wait, what?

    Name something you recently learned that completely rotated your view on a movie or game or show.

    Here's one: A Bug's Life possibly presents Disney's first representation of a homosexual relationship and a happy transgendered individual. Manny the Mantis is in a relationship with Gypsy the Moth. However, she can fly. Only male gypsy moths can fly. What? Therefore Gypsy is actually a male moth styling himself as a female and Manny presumably knows since he's not stupid.

    I know.I'm reading too much into this. Disney would have never done something like on purpose in a kid's flick, it was most likely an oversight (Gypsy should have been a butterfly).
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    First of all, itís a Pixar movie. Second of all - if theyíre transgender, you miiiight rethink using ďa male styling himself as a femaleĒ to describe them. Third - I also donít think this was by design. Itís more likely that they chose those bugs because they looked nice, rather than trying to sneak in some LGBT themes, especially considering the time the movie was made and what kind of awareness there was on the topic back then (there wasnít a lot).

    But anyway, I wouldnít say a queer reading of anything would really constitute learning something new about a film to me personally - itís just looking at it from a different angle. That said, it is always surprising when the creator steps out to announce something about the work that wasnít part of the original text. Like you can try to argue it was foreshadowed in extremely subtle ways, but Dumbledore being gay came completely out of left field.

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    I have to agree on that. Not that I care if Dumbledore is gay but why bother mentioning it out of context? May as well say that Snape wss gay too. Or Cedric Digory. Or (escaping the Harry Potter universe) what if the Wachowskis claimed that Morphius was gay? If it's not mentioned in the source material, it's not impactful.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    JK just did it because she's an awful melt trying to look relevant. she's also a TERF so she probably wouldnt jump on your analysis, so there's that.

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    I think the dancing ballet fantasia ostriches are the male version of the bird too.




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