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Thread: Why some can perform Fire 2, but others can't?

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    Default Why some can perform Fire 2, but others can't?

    I don't understand why some characters like Bartz can perform Fire 2, Ice 2, and Lightning 2, but other players, like Galuf can only do Fire 1, Ice 1 and Lightning 1. How can I make Galuf perform 2? What am I missing? Thanks!

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    The likely culprit is that you're using magic as a secondary ability and the character doesn't have access to the right skill level for it. For example, and I am pulling these numbers out of thin air, Bartz is likely at Lv. 4 in the Black Mage job, whereas Galuf only has a Lv. 1 or 2. This means Bartz can use Lv. 4 Black Magic while Galuf can only use Lv. 1. Your magic access is directly tied to their job levels because the magic upgrade you get allows your character larger access to the class's spell repertoire and also boosts their effectiveness.

    So long story short, you likly need to change Galuf back to a Black Mage and grind a few additional job levels to gain access to the appropriate spells. Likewise, Red Mage class gives you access to both White and Black magic, but even at it's highest ability level, you only gain access to a third of the magic spells available to both classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    The likely culprit is that you're using magic as a secondary ability and the character doesn't have access to the right skill level for it. For example, and I am pulling these numbers out of thin air, Bartz is likely at Lv. 4 in the Black Mage job, whereas Galuf only has a Lv. 1 or 2. This means Bartz can use Lv. 4 Black Magic while Galuf can only use Lv. 1. Your magic access is directly tied to their job levels because the magic upgrade you get allows your character larger access to the class's spell repertoire and also boosts their effectiveness.

    So long story short, you likly need to change Galuf back to a Black Mage and grind a few additional job levels to gain access to the appropriate spells. Likewise, Red Mage class gives you access to both White and Black magic, but even at it's highest ability level, you only gain access to a third of the magic spells available to both classes.
    Thanks! You also inadvertently answered my other question I had (but I'm still confused): what is the point of leveling up? Once we get thief or Red job completed, why keep leveling it up? To be a better thief or a better Red? You stated that Red goes up to level 3. I guess there's no point of leveling up Red after Level 3?

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    Job levels vary from class to class. Things like the White/Black mage go up to Level 7, which allows you to cast all six levels of magic and the final level grants a sub ability that grants an MP% Bonus. Some classes like Red Mage though will grant unique skills you can't access. The first three levels grant the access to Lv. 1-3 Magic, but the fourth and final level of the class grants the doublecast ability which lets you cast magic twice per turn. So it is important to keep leveling some jobs because their best skills are at the highest job levels. Likewise, Mastering a job allows the Freelancer and Mime classes access to certain innate skills from the class. For instance, mastering Knight gives both classes innate Cover just like the class, so you wouldn't need to equip the skill on either of them. Same deal with Ninja's Dual Wield skill.

    The second reason is because the levels boost your stats when you have a skill from a class equipped. Equ. Weapon skills will often grant the character the same Strength stat as the class, allowing for a squishy black mage to hit a monster with a sword and the strength of a Knight. The higher magic levels you get from the spell casters not only grant access to their magic but also raises their effectiveness. A Knight casting Cure with a Lv. 1 White vs. one casting the same spell with Lv. 6 will show a big difference in power. Finally, Mastering a job grants their highest stats to both the Freelancer and Mime classes. Granted the stats in question will change to a different class if their stats are higher in a particular category. So for example: If you were to master Dragoon, the Freelancer and Mime would get a +18 bonus to their strength stat since it's the highest stat the class has. Now if you were to master Knight right afterwards, Mime and Freelancer would have their strength increased to +23 instead because Knight has a higher base strength than Dragoon.

    If you were only playing to get the best stat boosts for Freelancer and Mime, then all you would need to do is master Monk, Thief, and Summoner in order to get the best boosts to Strength, Magic, Stamina and Speed. Unless of course you're playing the Advance/iOS/Steam version of which you need to master Oracle instead of Summoner for the best Magic boost.

    If you need an overview of the classes, I've written one up for my Let's Play. I've covered all of the jobs except Freelancer, Mime, and the Advance classes: Gladiator, Oracle, Cannoneer, and Necromancer.

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    Galuf forgot how to count

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    Because Galuf can cast fire, and Bartz can cast fire too.

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