well, first ya gotta get Cloud in the right dress, the one that gets Coreno to pick him over Aeiris or Tifa. Then you have to enter X, SQUARE, TRIANGLE, TRAINGLE, TRAINGLE, TRAINGLE, O+X to make Cloud do the dance of the seven vails while singing row row your boat to a car wash!!
That will revive Zack. Yup *nods*
Xmasta: Sephiroth did not have a tattoo.
Nemesis: The Shinra troops didn't carry Zack off, they left him where they shot him.
[The death of God left the angels in a strange position]
Mookie37!!
How can I do that with a CPU ver?
(SARCASM)
Th code for the CPU version is the same as the code for that version that makes Tifa run around naked and preform perverse sexual acts on the party member of your choice. If you don't know that code, well then you're just sad. Yup *nods*
it wuz just my opinion. They did not carry Zack away. and Zack didnt say "ooooooooo auuuuuuuuuug" when he wuz shot. the man in the pipe did.Originally posted by Nemesis the Warlock
Xmasta, you might have just proved that bloke is not Zack:
If he was found outside Midgar, it can't have been Zack. If I remember correctly, the grunts carried him off after they shot him. He was not left there, Cloud was (and I'm sure the bloke in the pipe is not Cloud).
And I don't think the sound "ooooooooo auuuuuuuuuug" helps to identify that person.Besides, Zack doesn't make that sound (or any other sound) after he got pumped full of led. I believe Zack is dead, but I shouldn't say that too loud, before someone tells me how to revive him.
I believe that Vincent has Jenova cells in him. At the "snowboarding city" watch the first home video. Ilfana says that when the crises from the sky first appeared (Jenova) it decieved the Cetra and gained their trust, then it gave them its Virus that turned some of them into "raging monsters". If Vincents limit breaks don't turn him into raging monsters than whatever.
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Ageless Fantasy: Uh, what does that have to do with the current topic?
[The death of God left the angels in a strange position]
mm
but jenova has the power to rebuilt sertain genes
why can we beat her so easly
if her cells can heal wounds and body parts
why ,why can we beat her
i agree that vincent is infected with the jenova cells
( his limit breaks !! --> transformations, sef --> infected with jenova cells and he's also a kind of mutant)
Floris: Obviously, such healing powers have their limits. Repairing a mako-saturated body damaged or killed by a fall yet still sustained by a powerful force of will is one thing; repairing a lead-riddled body lying in one of the most mako-deprived areas of the planet is entirely another.
[The death of God left the angels in a strange position]
You guys are not even on topic at all. SCREW THIS.
YOU CAN REVIVE AERIS IF YOU GET THE UNDERWATER MATERIA AND THE RAINBOW COLORED CHOCOBO!!!!!
REALLY?!? HOW DO I GET THE RAINBOW CHOC??!
Seriously though, how does Jenova have any healing powers besides Cloud's trip through the lifestream...wait she didn't really even heal him, Tifa did.
I for one think...
a) the man in the pipe COULD be Zack
b) Vincent's coffin IS made of wood
c) Vincent DOES have Jenova cells
d) Jenova cells SLOWLY HEAL over extended periods of time, NOT two seconds and then you grow a new limb
e) There is NO CODE WHATSOEVER that revives Aeris, Zack or anyone else for that matter (NOT EVEN Cait Sith)
f) There isn't any rainbow chocobo, purple chocobo or red chocobo that you can possibly catch/breed
I used to have one... but it was erased... *sigh*
Okay first off I want to aplaud Nick for sticking up for himself on his own for so long. I don't know if he reads this still but I'd just like to say that as far as all the arguements have gone so far, he WAS in the right!!!
Maybe not about Zack, I'll go into that in a second, but he was saying that it was POSSIBLE, everyone who said it was impossible or almost impossible or nearly impossible is WRONG as far as arguements have been so far, their are enough valid arguements for it to be at least plausible enough for fanfic.
Anyway now onto the topic.
As far as the scientific arguements have gone there are three arguements that just don't hold so in final fantasy should be discounted.
First, Vincent wouldn't have been stopped by the door.
YES HE WOULD!!! This is final fantasy! A team who has taken on Shinra killed jenova's armoured killing machines and travelled all over the world CANNOT open the door without a key!!! So Vincent could very well have been called.
Second, Zack couldn't have survived the gunfire. YES HE COULD!!! Again this is final fantasy, people only die if they are meant to, nomatter what happens to them. Cloud, Squall, Vincent, Dyne, Ward, Kiros, Laguna, etc. all have survived surefire deaths. Zack was not certainly shot in the head, and even then he could still have survived.
Third Jenova can be killed easily, says who? Even if it doesn't revive itself, thats because you destroy it! You can't regenerate yourself if you have a starting point. If it's not destroyed, who says it doesn't revive. Maybe you don't see it, or maybe you do. Doesn't Synthesis suggest that the previous forms have joined, it doesn't really seem the logical step after Birth, Life, Death does it?
But thats just arguing against theories trying to disprove the possibility, I'm not saying the man in the pipe is Zack, or that Vincent was called, although I have to say Jenova cells do seem the most likely source of his powers and survival. It is plausible enough for a fanfic, and I believe that is how it was intended (open ended), or maybe as has been suggested, just as an early glimpse of the clones.
I'm sorry to all the people who think that this topic should be left, I am not argueing that I am right, merely that other people are not wrong.
I say what I think. If you disagree, then that is up to you.
You can revive Aeris.
This thread has gone to far, it is a dead debate.
EDIT: No, I don't believe that, it's just that this thread has been an eyesore for quite sometime. I thought we weren't allowed to revive threads anyway?
Last edited by Sephex; 06-22-2002 at 01:38 AM.
I agree with Sephex. Of course it's possible that the guy in the pipe is Zack. You could defend that position forever. What? Zack got shot in the head at point blank range? But it's possible that the Jesus Christ came down from heaven and healed Zack.
The point being, this debate is pointless. I mean, you're arguing about what sound the lid of a coffin makes when it hits the floor and how full Vincent's limit break was when you get him. End this already.
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