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    1) attachments are stored in the database. Even if I knew how to save the whole forum as .mht files (and I don't), it would probably increase the size of the db to do it that way

    2) Post counts: I have no idea what's wrong with them, and frankly, there is a reason why they don't show up in people's profiles anymore. We had a lot of senseless, post-count-raising garbage back when we had them shown. If anything, I'm tempted to make them not shown in profiles, as well.

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    Originally posted by Citizen Bleys
    1) attachments are stored in the database. Even if I knew how to save the whole forum as .mht files (and I don't), it would probably increase the size of the db to do it that way
    MHT files aren't part of vBulletin. They're part of IE. File -> Save As -> Select MHT -> Save.

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    The heck with post counts. I hope we all end up at 0 again. *nod*

    I only wanted to make a thread in General Chat that was an Archive-nomination thread, so people could link to threads (in any forum) and Mods could go through and move all those threads to the Archive (at the Mods' discretion of course, I'm sure a lot of junk would be suggested that doesn't really need to be saved, and I'm sure we don't want the Archives to become overly huge). That's only good if you're not going to prune the Archives though. That way we could say important threads on the MB. I won't make it if you say you don't want me to, or if you're going to prune the Archives anyways. It doesn't really matter to me anyways.

    We could always just wipe the MB clean and start over, that'd be amusing.

    Yeah, I saw the announcement right after I posted. I'm dumb and too lazy to edit my posts.

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    Originally posted by Squally Leonharty


    MHT files aren't part of vBulletin. They're part of IE. File -> Save As -> Select MHT -> Save.
    No, MHT files aren't part of vBulletin. Attachments are saved in the database. They don't take up zero bytes just because they have an .mht file extension

    Originally Posted by Hans
    I only wanted to make a thread in General Chat that was an Archive-nomination thread, so people could link to threads (in any forum) and Mods could go through and move all those threads to the Archive (at the Mods' discretion of course, I'm sure a lot of junk would be suggested that doesn't really need to be saved, and I'm sure we don't want the Archives to become overly huge). That's only good if you're not going to prune the Archives though. That way we could say important threads on the MB. I won't make it if you say you don't want me to, or if you're going to prune the Archives anyways. It doesn't really matter to me anyways.
    Good idear. I'll make the thread meself.

    Originally posted by Dr Unne
    Yeah, I saw the announcement right after I posted. I'm dumb and too lazy to edit my posts.
    ...I want to make some sort of snarky, mean-spirited comment, but I came up with a complete blank this time. *cries*

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    Originally posted by Citizen Bleys


    No, MHT files aren't part of vBulletin. Attachments are saved in the database. They don't take up zero bytes just because they have an .mht file extension
    Heh, okiedokie. I kind of misread your statement in your post.

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    Right, I just personally went through sixty pages of General Chat bejabbering, picking out and saving all the worthwhile threads. Now I just need to attend to EoEO, The Lounge, General Gaming Discussion, the Staff forum, and the few worthwhile game-specific fora kill me now KILL ME NOW

    I mean...what'll be done about Magestar, then?

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    Why prune Staff Forum? And why on earth move threads from there into Archive?
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    I have no idea why the Staff Forum should be pruned (it shouldn't, if you ask me), but the saving and/or archiving of worthwhile threads would happen so as not to lose the data for the sake of posterity.

    While we're at it, I'd make the Feedback Forum immune to pruning, as well. Just so.

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    Magestar, we'd better leave. I have a habit of forgetting the names of minor characters.

    Such as my character's wife.

    That's right, I don't know my wife's name. Therefore I need the old threads from Magestar.

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    Y'Know, I think the Staff Forum would fit better under Support rather than General - and also means you can leave everything under the Support and EOFF RPG alone - nice way to split up forums which need sorting from those that don't
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    Originally posted by crono_logical
    Y'Know, I think the Staff Forum would fit better under Support rather than General - and also means you can leave everything under the Support and EOFF RPG alone - nice way to split up forums which need sorting from those that don't
    That's a bloody good idea--I could temporarily move the Writer's Corner and Artist's Gallery to somewhere else, and then just prune the "General" category with "Include Subforums" selected instead of doing it forum-by-forum.

    I'll move it later, after putting an announcement in Staff so that some people don't fail to see the Staff forum in its new location and wonder if they've been kicked off of staff for some reason

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    Eh... if you did that thing with the creative fora you'd have to make sure that you remembered to do that before every pruning. And then there would we be if someone forgot?

    Just for the reference, which forums *are* currently slated to be pruned? I'd like to know so I can go digging through the affected fora looking for good threads and such.

    Here's my vote for what shouldn't be pruned:

    Daily Grind
    Archived Daily Grind
    Artist's Gallery
    Writer's Corner
    General Archive

    all Support (Help, Open Source, Staff, Feedback)
    all Squaresoft (*too lazy to list*)
    all ORPG (*doesn't remember names*)

    What's actually getting pruned? Some fora are so wide as per what they encompass that we'd have to send a lot of dedicated people out on missions searching for threads to save; I'm sure there's lots of good stuff in The Lounge and General Gaming that I won't bother to look at and save, since it won't interest me to look at Lounge threads about sports or General Gaming threads about fighting games. And I can't imagine the fora without "Kishi's Visual Guide to Go Go Ackman," even though it's only about a one-month-old thread.

    [EDIT] I just realised that it would be a very bad thing to do the pruning on July 6th, as that's when the EoFF Forum Prom is slated to occur. Many people would be very unhappy, were the fora down at that time.

    'Course, we could always reschedule it to July 7th if it made the pruning operation seem to have more breathing room or something. But I don't know how other people would feel about that. [/EDIT]


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    At present, I intend to prune everything in the General category save the archive. And I think I might create a new category for archives so that I can do the pruning in one fell swoop.

    So the forums to scan for saveworthy threads are predominantly General Chat, Eyes On Each Other, and the Lounge.

    EDIT: the Artist's Gallery and any Gaming forum with over 10,000 threads will be subject to some selective pruning--but not from the Control Panel; I'll be reviewing large threads in there on a case-by-case basis.

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    So what's the status on General Gaming Discussion and the Writer's Corner, then? If we know that, we'll be all set.

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    General Gaming is subject to the Prune, but the Writer's Corner and Artist's Gallery will be reviewed by hand.

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