Level BB/M becomes stronger than Fi/Kn

[Captain Maxx Power]

Not one post by Unne. I think I'm going into shock...

[Fighter]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nemesis the Warlock
Black Belts don't need armour, have more than ten times the Intelligence of Fighters, have a much better Evasion rate, a better chance of escaping from battle, and most important of all, can kill most monsters before those get a chance to hit back.[QUOTE]

Without armour, they have the LOWEST defense
(yes even lower than every mage if it is equipped with the best possible armour) Also, they are most vulnerable to magic without the ribbon. If you go to post I made http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showt...747#post463747 recently it will tell you how much the defense of a BB sucks. And if you're reffering to Int as magic def, even if a Knight has the lowest (BB's isn't that high either), he always takes less damage for me when it comes to magic defense than the Master (with the Master unequipped). (Please tell me if you are reffering to Int as something else.) :o I'm also surprised that Unne hasn't posted in this thread yet, but he probably gets so tired of bashing the BB that he just leaves it to other people that hate them too. *Waits for Unne to come*

[Dr Unne]

If the Knight has Masmune, the answer is beyond 30, pretty sure. I have a party on my WSC at level 31 and the Knight does more damage consistently than the Master.

[Hatu]

Originally posted by Maxx Power
Actually, is the poll on unequipped chars? I mean, Knights are only as good as their equipment at the end of the day, so it doesn't matter what level its at, if the knights have rubbish equip, then the BB will kill 'em level 1. So it's kinda hard to judge when they get stronger for me personally, but for the sake of arguement, i'd say level 21-30

Why would it be with unequipped characters? Do you play with unequipped Fi/Kn? We could as well compare Fighter and BB with same equipment, they can both use staffs/cones.

[Book]

Originally posted by Dunbar
It depends on if we are talking about maximum damage or average damage.

From levels about 10-20, the BB starts with slightly higher maximum damage up to much more maximum damage. Only over these levels he doesn't seem to acheive that damage very often. His average damage I would say is lower than the fighter's average damage for these levels. The BB just doesn't get all his hits in very consistantly as far as I have seen.

From 21-25, the BB catches up on average damage. From 26-30, he begins to surpass the fighter. From 30+, I assume there is no beating the BB, though I've never played at those levels.

But certainly from level 15 onwards, the BB will have the biggest individual hits when he crits and gets all his hits in. But, the fighter tends to be much more consistant and do more damage on average for quite some time. However, you generally only remember the big hits, which leads many to believe that the BBs damage output is higher over time than it really is, at least in my experience.

yeap something like that, around lv25 the Master gets better but he will never have any good defence compared to the Knight or be able to use magic so in the allround matter he's not as good as the Knight but he is indeed a powerful all out attacker.

[Faris_the_guy]

18 because Warrior had a mythril sword

[Garland]

I say the two pretty much equal out around 10-29, then the BB starts to pull ahead.

[Star of Penumbra]

BBs suck. Yea verily.

[IRECKONBO]

Originally posted by Dr Unne
If the Knight has Masmune, the answer is beyond 30, pretty sure. I have a party on my WSC at level 31 and the Knight does more damage consistently than the Master.

Well you cant really count that. Because you can easily equip the Masmune on the BB and say he is stronger then the Knight with the Excaliber. But anyway my Black Belt ALWAYS at lvl 15 is equal to my Fighter in STR. Then once i get to lvl 24 he becomes stronger.

[Fiero Firestorm]

At Lv44, the weapon-less Master does more damage, consistantly, than the Knight with Excalibur. This is with WSC.