WEAPONS

[Raistlin]

The Crater was from Jenova.

The Wweaponss do not have the ability of reason. That's why the Planet uses them as a last resort.

They do have ability. They are powerful, very powerful. They can't get to Sephiroth because he trapped himself in the Northern Crater until the end of Disc 2. They can't get to Meteor because it's...well, a meteor. Plus, Sephiroth isn't the threat. Meteor is.

The Weaponss are designed to destroy everything in their path until they find the crisis. If they destroy all of humanity, oh well.

Why wouldn't the Planet design them to be stupid? If they were smart, they could take over the world.

I don't know if the Lifestream could direct the Weapons or not. Maybe Sephiroth was blocking that the same way he was blocking Holy. *shrugs*

[PhoenixAsh]

Jenova is big and powerful, she isn't big and powerful enough to travel across galaxies on her own and smash giant holes in planets. I assumed she arrived on a meteor of some kind when she came. If she flew, why did she crash into the planet instead of just landing.
I am aware they are designed to kill everything in their path, but they are designed to have a path at least!

"They can't get to Meteor because it's...well, a meteor. Plus, Sephiroth isn't the threat. Meteor is. "

Let me check, they were designed to stop meteor, the crisis. However the planet gave them one small design flaw, the complete inability to stop a meteor?

Didn't the mako cannon take out the barrier over the crater? Shinra have more attack power than the planet now?

[Killy]

The weapons were not created to destroy Meteor, they were created to destroy whatever is a treat to the planet, thats the reason they cant destroy Meteor, they werent created for that exact task.

[Final Fantasy Romeo]

the way i think it is like whoever said it, seph might be blocking the link between the planet and Weapons. when Diamond/Saphire/WEAPON attacks junon it was in some sort of pattern it was followin like ultimate weapon does flying, it attacks junon loses moves on to midgar and if it won and kept moving it mght of just went in circles. ruby and emerald must of didnt no where to go there fore just sat there runnin arround in sand or swimming with the fishies. i think if the planet could make the Weapons then they would be able to control it. OR Seph some how makes the weapons "lose" memory of there mission or something.
and i remember in the game, it says the weapon were created to distroy "anything" killing the planet even including humans if necesary.
thats my point of view

[Zypher]

"Jenova is big and powerful, she isn't big and powerful enough to travel across galaxies on her own and smash giant holes in planets."

Apparently, she is and did. It was stated outright, anyway.

" I assumed she arrived on a meteor of some kind when she came. If she flew, why did she crash into the planet instead of just landing."

Dunno. But again, it was outright stated that she did crash into the Planet at the North Pole, perhaps on a comet or something, perhaps not (my guess would be yes). Reasons and motives for her actions aren't given, which makes sense, as she's been dead (or sealed away, or whatever) for a long time by the beginning of the game, and the only record of events at that time are the legends of the ancients (Iflana telling Gast about it on the videotapes in Icicle Inn).

[Raistlin]

Jenova arrived on the Planet 2000 years ago. She created the Crater. It doesn't matter how.

Pheonix: tell me, exactly how would anything stop a Meteor? Only Holy and the Lifestream itself have that power. Plus, Meteor wasn't the only crisis the Weapons were made for; just any severe crisis in general.

[PhoenixAsh]

It matters very much how she arrived. If I was a planet that had been nearly destroyed by big stuff coming from the sky, I'd make sure that stopping big things falling from the sky was a feature of my new defences I made.
As for how they could stop meteor, well by attacking it for a start. By trying to deflect it's path. Hell if they just looked at it it would have looked like they were trying.
I still don't see why they didn't try to get Jenova either, you could maybe argue that that's why they fight you, but it's a very big stretch.

[Raistlin]

Well, since the game made no mention of Jenova getting aid in traveling across the galaxy, it's most likely to assume that she didn't need help.

Also, the Weapons were hardly new defences. They were there, I'd imagine, when Jenova first came.

I've asked this before: how could ANYTHING besides Holy and the Lifestream stop Meteor? Those are the only two that have that power.

How do you attack a Meteor? No plasma rays or anything would likely penetrate the atmosphere.

What point exactly are you trying to prove?

To your last statements: Meteor was the obvious threat. After that, Sephiroth. Jenova was the "behind the scenes" bad guy.

[PhoenixAsh]

No, Jenova was what threatened the planet millenia ago, she is now active and the planet is in trouble. I think she is a bit more than a background bad guy.
The planet could have designed them with the capability of stopping Meteor. The planet is full of mako, lifestream, materia, knowledge, etc. I think it could match a small ball of the stuff.
Seeing as there's a giant crater at the top of the planet, it seems a bit obvious to me that Jenova didn't just fly. That plus the existence of the black materia, and the pictures in the Temple of the Ancients.

[thelynchpin]

Hang on just a sec.......wasn't there like 5 WEAPONS to begin with?

With 5 super killing machines, you're telling me that Jenova AND the meteor couldn't be stopped? Assign 3 or 4 Weapons or 1 Super-Weapon equivalent to battle the meteor with holy and lifestream, and create a further weapon or two to attack smaller menaces like Sephiroth and Jenova. In my opinion a tough weapon would be more than a match for Jenova.

I agree they should be made stupid, but surely the planet can make monsters which are physically able to defend itself whatever the crisis?

[Raistlin]

Shinra launched a rocket at Meteor. Magically, it pulled itself together. The only materia that could harm Meteor is the white materia, Holy.

Also, I've said it before, Jenova was the behind-the-scenes bad person. Jenova just moving around the Planet again is not enough to call the Weapons, as she was out and about for all of Disc 1. Sephiroth was not a threat enough to the Planet either. However, Meteor had the capability of damaging or destroying the Planet, so it endangered the Planet itself, not just the life on it. So the Weapons came out of their sleep. They might not have even known what the threat is, just that they have to destroy everything until they find the threat.

Plus, if you don't believe this explanation, what reason can you give for the Weapons acting as they do?

[Pyro Force]

if the weapons arent tearing the place up, mind explaining how the "lake" where ultima's taking a nap appeared there? that was a river earlier in the game wasn't it? Even if i'm halucinating and it has been there all this time, it supports the prior meteor contact theory.

As for making the weapons smart, Big and dumb is a good thing. If you have that much power and know how to use it, the planet would actually be endangering itself. They decide the best way to neutralize meteor is to make a nice hole for it to pass through and poof no more planet

And these weapons didn't kjust get made at the planets whim. They were there for a long time. thats why they were said to awaken instead of created. you cant just outfit one of them with a jetpack to fly up and kick the trout out of meteor. I figured the weapons were there since the formation of the planet

[Raistlin]

When did anyone say they weren't tearing the place up? Destruction's their job.

Anyways, you hit the nail on the head for the rest of your post. I dunno about the Weapons being as old as the Planet itself, but that's completely irrelevant.

[XERO]

**sighs** ok....the weapons wernt after sephiroth,in fact if you play through and pay attention they are in fact protecting him and the planet.thats why they arnt runnin around destroyin things,they arnt supposed to. accept midgar cuz lets face it,that place was just so damn evil and harmful to the planet. as for ruby and emerald not attacking it after whichever one did...maybe they got scared? hehe...they didnt want to get blown to pieces like their pal...wait....i think the weapons were awakened by sephiroth to...not sure on that one though....dont believe me? play on through

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Gast's documentary explains that the Planet created the Weapons (or at least WEAPON, a.k.a. Sapphire Weapon) when Jenova fell to earth 2000 years prior and started causing trouble. They're not nearly as old as the Planet itself.