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    Jenova may not have been as strong as she originally was; compare Jenova-BIRTH to Jenova-SYNTHESIS. Whatever the reason, however, doesn't change WEAPON's original purpose.

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    Ok, well that even is a better explanation for the Weapons inability to fight Meteor. They were designed to fight Jenova. Meh

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    So let me get this straight: I get the impression the Weapons were created by the planet, and only to be released in time of an emergency. However, the planet constructed them so that they would be hopeless against massive objects like Meteor (let Holy and lifestream battle that), so Weapons would be better suited to smaller ground targets such as Jenova.

    Unfortunately, making gigantic killer machines with brains would mean that the planet would risk being taken over, so they were just made stupid and programmed to destroy everything, to make sure the ground threat would eventually be destroyed, and probably to open up the way for Holy and Lifestream to be used if trapped by evil entities such as Jenova.

    Am I right so far or hav I gotten totally mixed up?

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    They weren't designed to be hopeless against Meteor...they just were hopeless against Meteor. They were designed to fight the "crisis from the sky", aka Jenova.

    Otherwise, yeah, that's fairly close to what I think. They're just supposed to destroy everything until they either destroy the threat, or wipe out everything, so that life can start over.

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    Okay I just see Jenova and Meteor as the same threat, that's why I think the weapons were summoned when they were. Jenova does little damage after she has landed, the only HUGE damage she does was when she crashed. Now obviously the weapons were designed to fight ground based Jenova because she was already there, but seeing as the planet knew what damage a crash from space can do it seems stupid that it didn't make proper defences.

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    First off: How do you know the Planet didn't? The Weapons were only obviously useless against Meteor, which only Holy and the Lifestream can fight. Who knows? Maybe they could have fought another Jenova flying through the skies. Meh

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    I'm sure they could, but given they need someone to summon them it's a bit pathetic. Espescially as there aren't anymore Cetra. The planet's lifespan is ridiculous compared to that of a species, it would't commit it's defences on the off chance it was attacked in that tiny fraction of it's life.
    I still don't see why the wepons weren't sent North, between them they should have just as much power as the Sister Ray.

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    Originally posted by Raistlin
    Who knows? Maybe they could have fought another Jenova flying through the skies. Meh
    Well, there is Ultimate Weapon.
    Originally posted by Phoenix 17
    I still don't see why the wepons weren't sent North, between them they should have just as much power as the Sister Ray.
    Well, they came out of the North, so it would have looked dumb for them to have started flying away, suddenly stopped short, muttered, "Oh, right," and turned back around.

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    LOL, good point, Kishi.

    Phoenix: The Weapons don't need anyone to summon them. The Planet itself does that.

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    It may have looked silly, but more so than just wandering around in circles ignoring all major threats to the planet?

    I am aware that the weapons can be summoned by the planet, that's MY point.

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    Why is the Planet worried about the Weapons taking over? The Weapons didn't have the power to hurt the Planet itself if they couldn't hurt meteor (even if you claim that it was meteor's location that was responsible for that, I think it's still safe to assume that Weapons aren't that powerful - you can defeat them yourself, after all). Is the Planet even concerned for its inhabitants, beyond making sure they don't hurt it? After all, the Weapons were designed to destroy indiscriminatly.

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    The Weapons started off buried somewhere in the North, so why didn't they deal with the threat there and then? Jenova and Sephiroth were both RIGHT there, as were all the major operatives of Shinra.

    Yeah, fair enough they're stupid, but there must be something seriously up if the threat is right there underneath ALL their noses and they ignore it.... strange!

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    tlp: I don't think they're even really sentinent. They're like the unintelligent monsters you encounter in random battles. The only additional faculties they have are their physical power, and their ability to sense murder. (I think that was it - doesn't Cloud say at one point that the Weapons are drawn to murder? I think it was when one of the Weapons was attacking, perhaps when Diamond (was it Diamond?) attacked Midgar. In any case, I'm pretty sure they're drawn to things that are hurting the Planet in general, i.e. Midgar.)

    Clarify: They could sense things that were hurting the Planet, not threats. So that's why they didn't attack Sephiroth in the Northern crater.

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    But aren't they designed to obliterate anything and everything in their path? People were right there, but ALL the weapons just bypassed them.

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    Umm, unless there's a reactor buried underneath Mideel somewhere, I don't think that's true. I think TLP's point was very good, pretty much everything bad was just sitting on top of the Weapons waiting to get killed.

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