I GOT FFX-2!!

[TakaX2]

People are misunderstanding me. Many times I say things I don't really mean. I was simply aggravatted that some people said they hated FFX and FFX-2 for certain faults such as slutty clothes or leveling up. No offense, but I didn't care for Rikku's clothes in FFX and really don't like her clothes in FFX-2 and believe they went a little too far on Yuna in FFX-2, yet I look past those things and judge the game as a whole (plot, enjoyment playing, etc.) I found I loved it. Although I did not mean anything I said, some people found my words offensive although I was joking. I apologize to any who were offended and ask for them to forgive me. I am usually calm and slow to anger but I was having a bad day and was particularly touchy. FFX is my favorite game and I believe FFX-2 will be too.

[Aya Nekoneko]

I'm willing to give FFX-2 a chance, although I'll admit that the thought of a Final Fantasy not being... well, final sort of rubs me the wrong way. But then again there are 11+ Final Fantasies out right now which makes the entire concept of a final Final Fantasy null and void, ne?

Anywho, I don't wanna form an opinion of a game before even playing it (I tend to easily sway... regarding opinions) but I personally think it'll be good. No Final Fantasy has, IMO, ever bombed. There were great ones and merely some good ones but none of them were horrible, methinks. Anywho, waiting to get the game when it's released. =D

[JEdi]

Originally posted by nanakixiii
Instead of wasting money on FFX-2, I recommend buying ZOE2.

First off, BLASPHEMER!

And secondly, it is a Final Fantasy game. Enough said. Put all the misconceptions about Fat balding Japanese guys, and bad lip sync aside. Square wanted something different, and they got it. As a final fantasy fan it is your job to take it or leave it.

Well, at least that's how I see it.

[Bahmant zero]

Originally posted by JEdi
First off, BLASPHEMER!

And secondly, it is a Final Fantasy game. Enough said. Put all the misconceptions about Fat balding Japanese guys, and bad lip sync aside. Square wanted something different, and they got it. As a final fantasy fan it is your job to take it or leave it.

Well, at least that's how I see it.

so he must buy it cos its final fantasy, but then he has a choice of take it or leave it?

anyway, jusy cos its final fantasy isnt good enough, call me crazy but the game has to be good too and square can only take a repuation so far before distroying it -and this is it. its not my job as an ff fan to buy every little bit of crap that they put on the market, just look at MQ *shudder* a ff fan should support the good games and coment on the bad so they can improve there games, im getting tierd so i cant be bothered to rant anymore but that comment was just flamebait, and yuna looks like a a new member of a the cheeky girls, i dont see much final fantasy in this game they might as well be done with it and turn it into action and call it tomb fantasy.

[JEdi]

Originally posted by Bahmant zero
so he must buy it cos its final fantasy, but then he has a choice of take it or leave it?

anyway, jusy cos its final fantasy isnt good enough, call me crazy but the game has to be good too and square can only take a repuation so far before distroying it -and this is it. its not my job as an ff fan to buy every little bit of crap that they put on the market, just look at MQ *shudder* a ff fan should support the good games and coment on the bad so they can improve there games, im getting tierd so i cant be bothered to rant anymore but that comment was just flamebait, and yuna looks like a a new member of a the cheeky girls, i dont see much final fantasy in this game they might as well be done with it and turn it into action and call it tomb fantasy.

No, what I meant was that he doesn't have to buy it. Gawd, im a n00b and already making a bad rep. You'll all feel different about it once you play it.

[Bahmant zero]

i doubt it, i would be embrassed to been seen buying it, yuna looks like a member of the cheeky girls for god sake, i see no final fantasy soul within it, its a betrayl to loyal fans as and a quick cash in for pervs.

[TakaX2]

I believe that every game and bad points, for instance Zelda for the original Nintendo had horrible graphics because it was made in the early 80's or something but still is a great game. In FFX-2's case, the main bad point (in my opinion) is the bad clothing design. They make them far too slutty. But you have to look past these bad points and look at the game as a whole. You may not like a game, but no game truly sucks because all games have their good points as well.

Although I don't agree with the clothes either, FFX-2 is NOT a "quick cash for pervs". The only problem is that they show too much skin. Watch t.v. for a little while and you'll see people wearing even sluttier clothes. A good portion of today's movies contain nudity which is a lot worse than slutty clothes. Just walk down the street and you'll see slutty clothes that personally make me sick. Pervs don't need to go spend 50 bucks on a game when they can just walk down the street or watch some dumbass show like "Stripperella".

You said that FFX-2 lacked "final fantasy soul". I personally believe that FFX and FFX-2 are perfect Final Fantasy games. They contain all the qualities of all the other FF games: good graphics, excellent fighting systems, exceptional plots, exc., exc. What do FFX and FFX-2 need to be a true Final Fantasy for loyal fans? I wonder what this "final fantasy soul" you talk about is and what a game must have to have it.

[Aya Nekoneko]

I guess I have a different definition of slutty or something. o.O

While FFX-2's clothing designs leave little to the imagination, I never saw them as looking slutty. Rikku-chan looks plain cute and Yuna looks kinda sexy. o.O; Not "slutty," though. Or maybe it's because their clothing looks so out of this world that I just can't see them walking the streets/acting like prostitutes/etc. o.o;

[JEdi]

I stick to my opinion. No matter what It's Final Fantasy. Enough said.

Oh, and btw. I played FFX the other day and it's as much for pervs as FFX-2. Camera angles giving very nice shots of Rikku's behind in that strange jumpsuit and whatnot. And the scene with Yuna and Tidus in the water. Honestly, it's everywhere these days. Doesn't make em any worse. Personally I've seen sluttier clothing, the ones worn by the girls in FFX-2 are nice, and still leave plenty to the imagination. Think the designers at square have done a great job.

And who exactly defines what "Final Fantasy soul" is?

[Bahmant zero]

if you wish to kill final fantasy, so be it, if you want to throw in guns rock and perving camras and whores cothes feel free, maybe they could scrap the fantasy part and set it in modern day? its nearly there anyway, and maybe while there at it they could change it to action, it wouldn't take very much. While there at it they should re-make ff6 and kick the guys out and dress the girls in bondage, throw in some guns and rock. the graphics on ff10 arnt that geat anyway, ive seen older games such as summoner 2 and evergrace (NOT everquest its a diffrent game and everquest is crap anyway) with far better graphics, i really dont see why everyone thinks there the best ever seen....

[TakaX2]

You constantly proclaim FFX and FFX-2 as tragedies to Final Fantasy. But what makes them so bad?

You said guns. FF8, another high quality FF game, had a gunblade and Laguna carrying a machine gun.

You said rock. Rock is my favorite kind of music and in my opinion the best. BTW, the music, aka the singing, is jpop, meaning it's POP not rock. But I think that jpop and pop are tied for being my second favorite music type.

You said perving cameras. THEY HAVE BUTTSHOTS, BIG DEAL! They camera angle looks at the person's back, which happens to show the butt, to make you see what the character sees while still looking at the character. They don't do it for buttshots. Showing a persons butt is not "perving cameras", going down a girl's shirt uncensored is "perving cameras".

You said whores' clothes. They aren't whores' clothes plain and simple. I had a hard time adapting to this new "more skin" style of clothes. I had a skin showing level and everything that showed more I thought of as slutty. Gradually you get used to it. At first, I was a little shocked at Yuna's short shorts. But they aren't bad. They give her a sexy look, which was the point. The cute, summoner image (nothing wrong with it) dies out between FFX and FFX-2. They needed her apperance to show how she changed. If they seem completely un-Yuna, remember Rikku picked them out and she's a bit more daring. The only other somewhat skin showing part of Yuna's outfit is the shirt. But that didn't bother me at all. I think it was awesome that they integrated Tidus' symbol into her oufit. It kinda symbolizes how the hope that Tidus is alive/is coming back is holding her together and keeping her going. At the first look at Rikku, you may think it's slutty but think for a second. It's a bikini top. No big deal there.

You say they're turning it modern day and not Final Fantasy. They have to make it somewhat close to modern day. That way people can relate to the game and still be brought into a totally different world. And they can't change it to action because it's not. They have lots of action in the fights and a bit in the gameplay, like ALL other FF games. They have mystery (where is Tidus and what happened to him), adventure (gonna go around the world and through whatever gets in our way), and romance (looking for the love of her life) just to name a few. FFX and FFX-2 are well-balanced and well-rounded games like ALL FF games.

FFX and FFX-2, like all other FF games, have great graphics. NOTHING comes close.

I am still curious as to what makes a game a true Final Fantasy game because it seems obvious to me that FFX and FFX-2 are.

[Bahmant zero]

Originally posted by TakaX2
FFX and FFX-2, like all other FF games, have great graphics. NOTHING comes close.

thats quiet a claim, there are other consoles with far better graphic such as gamecube, and there are many older games that do have superior graphics on all consoles, even on my hated enemy x-box. If i wanted to play something i could relate to that i could go outside and see i wouldnt play games i wouldnt need to, i buy them beacuse there supposed to tell storys according to there genre (which f10-2 and ff10 seems confused what genre it is)

[TakaX2]

Are you saying that FFX and FFX-2 are bad games because you think that they're mislabeled?

[JEdi]

Tisk tisk, Final Fantasy X and X-2 do have awesome graphics. There's no whats or ifs or buts about it. The backgrounds are not pre-rendered, but flow great. The frame rate is smooth. Also, it is brilliantly presented. Like a film. And rendered visuals flow smoothly into FMV so well that it often takes me a few seconds to realise that it happened.

But hey, who gives about graphics. Anyone heard of FFVII?

What on earth is bad about rock music?
Whores? Perving camera shots? BAH!

I think this is all going a bit overboard, I have to agree with TakaX2 on every single word he's written. Just because it's got an X in the title doesn't mean it's X-rated.

[Bahmant zero]

Originally posted by JEdi
Just because it's got an X in the title doesn't mean it's X-rated.

thats a good one, i never thought of that. anyway my anger with putting in rock is that the normal music score is more universial, not everyone likes rock and in a few years its going to be as loved as pop anyway, i feel that that type of music dosnt fit into final fantasy altough it did fit the situation in zanakend (bad sp) no matter how much i hate it.

and as for graphics, ff10 never had the best grahics and its ignorant for people to think so there are many games on all consoles that are older that have on-par grahics or even better, but grahics are no place near important as the story because that is what the hole game is, a story and i feel that ff10 lacked a decent story, ff7 had a wonderful story and dispite its age i still play it, im actually playing it now but meh....

anyway back to ff, last time a looked final fantasy was never about zooming in on yunas boobs or following lulus breats around but i might be wrong there, who knows the camera could of been following terra's breats in ff6 if it could zoom in, so i might be wrong there.
final fantasy 10s music score was fine in rare places such as the battle theme but most of it was the same few songs re-mixed and some didnt even fit at all.
this thread itself is a big pointer in someone not liking ff10-2 and hes actually played it, oh darn im off track again, where was i......
oh yes the characters are lame, underdevolped have little real personality and have poor dialoge, and motiveations.
one word......seymore *shudder*
when i play a hero, i want that not some snival whinny brat, if i want a game i could relate to and see in real, i wouldnt need to play a game i would just go outside, i play a game beacuse its that, its ment to tell a story and its a fantasy not reality,the map usage was ugly and the game was just one long boring road, even if it had a world map that would be some improvement.
the mini-games are not fun. full stop. its indurance and thats not fun, whocan say they loved the cloister of trails or trying to dodge 200 lightning bolts? give me the card game anyday (i loved that game) what little sidequests they where didnt reval much about the characters, the world or anything it was just pointless fighting dark aeons, battle is an important part of rpg's but it isnt everything. ff10 has very little replay value and the characters are not individual in the battle skills scince they can all do the same and learn the same. there is very little i like about this game and its sequal and i belive theres no need for one the only two things i liked was the new summon system and talking in battle. (we have nearly been aguing for 3 pages woo! we should celebrate)