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    I know this has come up before but I cant find the thread for it so....


    Whats the bloke in the pipe for because he doesnt do anything and he just says "oohhhhhhhhhhhh aaaggggggggg" and thats about it and then he dissaears I know that he has a tatoo but there are no Renion People in that area. Another thing the man in the pipe he has alot of trophies was he at the Golden Saucer or something once.
    i dnt know its just puzzling he's there and then he never comes back again.
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    It's called 'foreshadowing'.
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    Um.

    (SPOILER) Zack didn't just "take a few bullets." He was caught by surprise with the first spurt and fell. Then one soldier walked up to his body and quite literally filled it with lead. Zack died.

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    I'm adding a spoiler warning to the title of this thread, so every post doesn't need to be invisible.

    Jenova cells didn't bring Vincent back to life. He was only shot once, and we don't know where exactly, or whether or not it was a fatal wound or not. Furthermore, I doubt that he had any Jenova injected into him, because he was not drawn toward the Northern Cave during Reunion. If Cloud & co. had not disturbed his rest, he probably never would have awoken.

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    Vincent notwithstanding, Zack's as dead as a doornail. He wasn't just shot. He recieved a ten-second sustained burst from an automatic machine gun at point-blank range.

    That's not shot.
    That's mincemeat.
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    That does makes sense, and it serves to cover why Vinney decided to join the party with seemingly little explination, if any.

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    Please, remember, Zack took a burst from an automatic machine gun, in the head, at point blank range. That means that his head is splattered across that cliff near Midgar.

    If Jenova cells can't rebuild Vincent's arm, they sure as hell can't rebuild Zacks brain and head. Even if you disregard Vincent, Jenny couldn't rebuild her own head, so I doubt the Jenova cells in Zack could.
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    Furthermore, Hojo's notes indicated Zack had little or no response to the Jenova cells, as opposed to Cloud who had a strong reaction to the Jenova. Vincent really is irrelevant in this discussion; we simply have no idea what was done to him, and cannot consdier him a model for the standard Jenova infectee, considering the presence of third-party genetic strands in his nucleii.
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    Dak Rey has a point. If you went there with Aeris, she would have recognized him.

    Somebody in the streets of the slums says that he's horribly sick (or something like that).

    I always thought it was a fetch quest that Square ripped out, and just left the character there.


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    The "bloke" was one of the people that later attended the Jenova Reunion. Just go with that, it's not as confusing.

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    That's right. He's the first clone to appear.
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    Let me get this straight: you think Zack sat in front of his ex-best-friend and his ex-girlfriend, and NEITHER of them recognised him?
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    Originally posted by Nicholas D. Wolfwood
    Zack did have a bit less of a reaction to the Jenova cells than cloud did, but that's because he's stronger, and his body was able to handle it. He still has them, and they still work. They just don't take him over and control him like they do to cloud.
    Zack didn't have "a bit less of a reaction" than Cloud. According to Hojo's notes, he had no reaction at all.

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    Search for Hojo's notes in the back room of the study beneath Shinra Mansion. Cloud and Zack are referred to as "specimens" and not by their names, but you can tell which is which by Hojo's comments.

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    With no disrespect, sir, listen to the theories you're coming up with. You're reaching an awful lot.

    If the sick man was Zack, the script would have included some substantial hint of it, like having Aeris say that he reminds her of someone, or something.

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