best and worst summon system...

[Xu]

i guess the best is FFX's, because you can actually control the summon, the worst is FF6. The Summons oly can be used 1 time and oly 1 per character, plus they are rather weak and useless (some exceptions, maybe).

[black orb]

>>> The worst FF6, the whole game was all about espers and you can summon them only one time per battle

[TheAbominatrix]

Best is FFX, worst is VIII.

I liked VI's, because it made you rely on your own battle powers and whatnot, rather than summoning. In VIII you could constantly summon the same GF until their HP ran out. It made battles too easy. And then when you really needed them in the last battle they were absolutely useless. The game gave summoners a dependency on them and then took it away at the end.

[Vermachtnis]

The best is ten. Cause like stated before ya can controll the summons.

I like 6 cause, true when ya first get them all they're good for is teaching magic and boosting stats *Thank you Odin for speed*, but in Fanatics Tower they really come and save the day. (This is like my kind of not decided one)

I dislike IX, just because of Brahne. I mean what she did with Odin and Atomos made me think "Hell yea, the summons are going to be totally sweet" but then I get them and the do little damage and leave. Ark's summon is too long and the summons don't really give ya anything in the mind of magic or stat boosts.

[Pancaek]

The best is one of the SNES ones. They're good in FF4 and FF5 because they just come out, do tons of damage and leave. In FF6, they teach you stuff. Even though FF7 and FF9 have the same concept, the animations take forever, so that makes it worse because I'd like my 5000 damage to be over and done with in 5 seconds, not 5 minutes. My least favorite is FF8, because the characters have to be so dependent on either using the GFs for attacking, or drawing tons and tons of good spells to junction, which is boring. FFX's system was decent, but I only used the aeons for shields.

[PhoenixAsh]

Best FFVIII. If you depended on them, or think you were forced to draw for hours, you just didn't know how to play, sorry that's just how I see it.
FFVIII's system allowed so much freedom in how you play. The GFs could be summoned as much as you want, but that came with the cost of long animations (and the bonus of boost). This meant inexperiences players had a chance, but experienced player could have a much faster and less patience requiring game.


Worst is IX, no customising, no real use for them, no bonuses with them except an attack that takes ages to do very little. Game had them as a huge deal, but they were totally wasted.

[TheAbominatrix]

Please dont accuse us of not knowing how to play because we dislike the system of VIII. Many of us have been playing Final Fantasy and other RPGs for a good portion of our lives.

[Mr. Graves]

Summons in FF6 and FF7 are not necessary, in my style of play. Fire 3 combined with an ALL materia does more damage than the Ifrit summon Materia, or Phoenix, for that matter. The same applies for FF6 and its espers. High level elemental spells targeting all the enemies do more damage than a summon.

Anyway, The best system would have to be FF10. The Aeons protected your party, and you had some conrtol over what they did.

[PhoenixAsh]

At no point did I say that if you disliked VIII's system you didn't know how to play. I was quite specific what meant you didn't know how to play it.

[MagicKnight Locke]

worst:FF7
best:FF8,FF4,FF6,FF9,FF5,FF3j(lol)

[TheAbominatrix]

My point is, dont accuse any of us for not knowing how to play it. Simple. You have no idea about any of our playing skills, be they lacking or not. Now if you want to continue this argument, take it to PM, dont reiterate your pointless point here.

[PhoenixAsh]

So you actually post in public trying to make me look foolish, and then ask ME to answer back when noone can see? Whatever.

I never said I did know anything about your style, I gave two very clear examples of things that if you believed were the best way to play meant you didn't know the game. If you don't believe they are, then I didn't even bring your style into it.

LL I kinda agree with VII having one of the worst systems and I kinda don't. I agree because they did nothing but attack. I disagree because although they don't do much, they are effective compared to most other summons, FFVII never actually focuses on them so there's no reason for them to kick ass either.

[TheAbominatrix]

This isnt an effort to make you look foolish. You've done that yourself many many times. It's an effort to keep you out of trouble seen as you've already been warned for spamming in posts. Please just knock it off. I'm not going to reply to anything further, again just take it to PM. Dont insult other people's playing skills. Please.

[PhoenixAsh]

OOC:

Well I appreciate your help, though I have not been warned about spamming in posts (or at least noones told me about the warning), and adding insults didn't really make your post any more credible. Again, I am not going to reply to a public message insulting me through PM, I'm not flaming you, and this isn't the only thing I'm gonna talk about in my post. Maybe you should try using the PM function, then I would have replied with the very handy reply button.

To anyone who felt I was insulting them, I assure you I was not. I was giving facts about the game. You do NOT have to rely on GFs, and you do NOT have to spend hours drawing. If anyone feels that in some way these facts have offended them please reply explaining how so as I am very interested to learn.

I don't think I've given FFX's system enough credit in here, and although the system is fantastic it did have faults IMO. The Aeons made the game way too easy in my opinion, and the way you got them was painful. I did find FFX encouraged using allies as a shield to much, and the Aeons just took this to extremes.
Plus of course they were the reason Yuna was praised and loved wherever she went instead of being tied up and locked away so she could no longer endanger the world through her stupidity.

[playaGAW]

FF4 I believe had the worst summoning system. I hated how summons got weaker as you went on negating thier use later in the game.It was interesting how they were made part of the story. With the land of the summons and getting more info on how they lived.

The best system I believe was in 10 which I just played for the first time last week. I love how you can control the Aeons.