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    noone else is a scorceress.Adel Edea Ultimecia Rinoa...
    the only ones featured in the game.
    scorceresses are powerless unless they inherit the power. only one scorceress with power can exist in one time.that was the golden rule in FF8!!...
    tsk tsk...

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    Hydan I have to disagree with your last bit of input there..because you have Adel and Rinoa in the same time period..really The sorceress powers pass on from death to death kind of thing, ya know? Adel never died so she had the power still...and Rinoa got her powers from Edea..but she didn't die!...arg...but I know what you said isn't true

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    when Adel come out of sleep Edea didn't have no powers.
    Rinoa didn't have the power from Edea.
    Only one with power at any one time

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    I think Hydan's right. Lemme see if I can figure this out here.

    Edea gets her powers from Ultimecia, yes?
    Edea loses her powers when Adel is reawakened.
    Adel passes her powers onto Rinoa? Or does Rinoa get them before Adel dies?

    I've got no clue. But I still agree with Big D's theory about innate magical abilities. In a way, kind of like the FFVI (SPOILER)village of mages. Not the same, but in the sense that they all were born with a bit of magical ability. And no, I'm not saying that everyone in VIII descends from magical-types. Just tryin to give examples.

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    Originally posted by hydan
    when Adel come out of sleep Edea didn't have no powers.
    Rinoa didn't have the power from Edea.
    Only one with power at any one time
    In the Tutorial, it says that there are more than a few Sorceresses, just that most of them don't flaunt their power because of prejudice.

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    What about Angelo? Invincible Moon seems pretty magical to me, especially since there are no spells (only items) to make your party invincible. So, obviously, Angelo must be a sorceress. Or would that be sorcerer? Aw, frickin' hell, he's a dog!

    So we've got R=U and now S=U. Scary. Why not:

    Quistis=U?
    Edea=U?
    Xu=U?
    Aeris=U?
    and my personal favorite,
    Laguna=U? (that's right, (SPOILER)Ultimecia had a sex change once, and is actually Squall's daddy! "Suall, I am your father!

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    lol@Aeris=U

    wow.....i had no idea selphie was so powerful....lol

    Other than the magical ability...there is nothing to imply in the game that selphie could be a sorceress...if she was one or could be one.

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    Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
    Adel passes her powers onto Rinoa? Or does Rinoa get them before Adel dies?
    If you remember, Adel was the first boss on Disk 4, and Squall rescued Rinoa from the Sorceress Memorial towards the end of Disk 3.

    I think my theory of Ellone being a sorceress is quite sound. Heck E might = U, what with both seeming to have the ability to send their minds back through time (granted Ellone sends other people's minds back, but doesn't she also experiance the dreams of those who get sent back through time?).

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    I think Ultimecia was going back in time because she needed Ellone, it would be kinda pointless if she could do it herself. She coulod send herself back because of Odine's machine.

    I know a lot of theories about someone=U are just jokes, but it's getting a bit annoying. R=U is there to explain things it isn't just an idea someone had because it's possible.

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    Originally posted by Phoenix 17
    I know a lot of theories about someone=U are just jokes, but it's getting a bit annoying.
    Mine isn't a joke.

    I've never understood the Ellone Machine idea. I know Odine mentions it, but if the Machine is the problem then why doesn't Odine just destroy/not invent the machine? We never see this machine, unless it is Lunatic Pandora, but that isn't called the Ellone Machine.

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    Originally posted by Phoenix 17 I know a lot of theories about someone=U are just jokes, but it's getting a bit annoying. R=U is there to explain things it isn't just an idea someone had because it's possible.
    Sorry, I was just trying to have some fun. Actually, R=U does sound pretty plausable to me. It certainly does explain why (SPOILER)you can name Ultimecia's GF.
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    Originally posted by Big D
    A lot of the characters can use some kind of pseudo-magical ability in their Limit Breaks, without junctions. Besides Selphie and Quistis, Squall and Zell can do some fairly powerful stuff - just look at the levitation or fireworks involved in Lion Heart and Burning Rave. Seifer's Fire Cross is perhaps the best example. I believe that many of FFVIII's characters have some kind of innate magical ability, but aren't quite as powerful as 'real' sorceresses. After all, Galbadian and Esthar soldiers can use magic without junctions, too - they simply have a different system.

    What I'd like to know is, (SPOILER)why does Rinoa still depend on junctions and drawn magic when she becomes a sorceress? I mean, her powers and abilities (excluding Angel Wing) are completely unaffected.
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    Originally posted by DocFrance
    Aw, frickin' hell, he's a dog!
    Actually, they state explicitly in the game that Angelo is a she.
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    Sorry I wasn't trying to sound like I was telling people off, there's no need to say sorry. R=U takes a lot of heat around here I just wanted to point out it wasn't just an idea that sprang from nowhere.

    As for the Ellone machine, it could be explained why Odine doesn't destroy it in two ways I think. Either using a parallel universe theory of time travel that would severely complicate the fourth disc, or by assuming a second time loop has taken place as well as the Sorceress power one. The second seems more likely in that the machine was probably invented before the game, at which point someone from the future went back in time to get the details of it, then went slightly less forward in time and made themselves go back to get the details of the machine.

    Of course often logic involving the fourth disc is a bit of a dangerous idea, and I'm pretty much just writing off the top of my head at the minute so there could be another far simpler explanation.

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    well i dont think selphie is a soceress
    but after reading this thing on a different web page i defiantly think rinoa is ultamtcia!!
    well thats my opinion

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