Tifa's Questionable Behavior - CONTAINS SPOILERS

[Savannah]

Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
Yuna was the least independant character in all the FFs I've played! FFX Spoiler
Her entire life and opinions were programmed by Yevon, all she ever said was 'I will defeat Sin' and variations on that. Her only real form of attack was simply calling something else to fight for her. On the occasion that she was the only one who knew something and therefore made the descision herself, she could have very easily got the world destroyed through sheer stupidity until her GUARDIANS came to rescue her.

Tifa held the burden of Clouds past herself, could fight without any weapons unlike everyone else, stuck by Cloud when he was at his weakest state, and actually saved HIM from the lifestream, and at the very end of the game.
I can't remember a point where Cloud really saved her at any time other than when she was still young and dependant.

AGH... thanks for the spoiler, firstly. -_-

Yuna knew what being a Summoner would entail when she chose to be one. She had her own ideas and opinions, but she was expected to be strong and resilient, more like the leading male roles from the other FFs. When I say she's independent, I don't necessarily mean her JOB, which doesn't really give her a lot of room for her own opinions. I mean that she chose her own path, and didn't let the influence of her romantic interest dictate what she did after she met him (to an extent, letting your romantic interest influence what you do is only right- but the other FF chicks were led around by their noses by it!). Ah, and keep in mind that I've only played FFVII, FFVIII, and FFX. For all I know, there might be a very respectable leading lady in one of the other games. ^_^

[TheAbominatrix]

Trust me, there are plenty of strong FF leading ladies in the other games. Though there's usually ones who get all weird over guys, as well.

Anyway, I was thinking of something Savannah said, I wanted to make a note. When Tifa was constantly asking Cloud "Remember this?" I think she was testing him. His memories were so garbled it was possible that it a) wasnt Cloud at all, but a Shin Ra clone of some sort or b) Cloud couldnt clearly remember his past/got his memories mixed up with someone else's. Obviously she would be right, at least on the latter part.

It's like when she asked him about the promise... he didnt remember it clearly. He didnt remember anything clearly, and a lot of his memories needed prodding from Tifa. I dont think she was trying to reminisce with him, I think she was both testing him and trying to get him to confront his past.

Yes.

[PhoenixAsh]

I don't like agreeing with TheAbominatrix, it makes me suspiscious. Unfortunately she's talking sense so I have to, damn you and your intuitive thinking!

FFX: (SPOILER)What spoiler did I give away? I was careful not to. Yuna might have made the choice to become a summoner, but that's it. Her choice did result in her closet friends having to risk their lives and give up their own dreams despite the fact they didn't want her to do it. Anyway she followed in her father's foosteps, hardly that independant for her only VAGUELY sensible choice in the game.

[TheAbominatrix]

Yeah I know. I hate agreeing with you, too . Hehe. But we've got a like mind on this subject... something evil is afoot, methinks.

[Big D]

*Updates thread title and adds 'FFX Spoiler' tags to PhoenixAsh's post*

[q=TheAbominatrix]It's like when she asked him about the promise... he didnt remember it clearly. He didnt remember anything clearly, and a lot of his memories needed prodding from Tifa. I dont think she was trying to reminisce with him, I think she was both testing him and trying to get him to confront his past.
[/q]I noticed that...
Cloud DID rememeber the promise completely, but only after Tifa reminded him. I liked the way she tried to prompt him to uncover his own buried memories. She was, however, too afraid of losing him or discovering an awful truth to simply confront him directly about it. If she HAD, it might've prevented a lot of tragedy - but the realisation may also have destroyed Cloud.

[HOOTERS]

Marlene wins sluttiest hands-down thankyouverymuch.

[droggen]

Originally posted by Hootenanny
Marlene wins sluttiest hands-down thankyouverymuch.

WTF SHE'S WHAT BETWEEN 4-6!!!

[TheAbominatrix]

Originally posted by droggen
WTF SHE'S WHAT BETWEEN 4-6!!!

She's 4 I believe, and he isnt being serious.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

I don't know, Priscilla might be sluttier than Marlene.

[PhoenixAsh]

Dammit Kishi. I was happily ignoring that until you had to go and say something sensible about it. My mind had already come up with Priscilla fake drowning so Cloud would rescue her before I managed to get it under control.

I'm still lost as to what spoiler I gave away about FFX, really, it was all general stuff that I'm not even sure people who've played the game could know 100% which bits I was talking about.

[Savannah]

I wasn't talking about an FFX spoiler. I was talking about the FF7 spoiler about (SPOILER)Tifa rescuing Cloud from the Lifestream. I'm playing FF7 right now and I haven't even made it past disc one yet.

[PhoenixAsh]

Sorry I assumed people who read these aren't bothered by spoilers given that every post is based on game content. I knew I hadn't put an FFX spoiler in.

Anyway, sorry my bad I guess.

[Sefie1999AD]

*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

Originally posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi
I don't know, Priscilla might be sluttier than Marlene.

Kishi is right, actually. She was drowning (wow, what great acting from her!) only to have Cloud do mouth-to-mouth stuff to her. And after you get Cloud from Lifestream, Priscilla yells at him: "Cloud! Were you in the Lifestream? You scared me! You mustn't do that again, because one day you're going to marry me!" It's true, she says that!

I don't think Tifa was slutty. In the FF series, there are women who wear less clothes, and they aren't slutty either (take all FFX-2 characters as well as FFX's Lulu for an example). Aeris is a nice character, but it was a bit annoying how she kept constantly comparing her former boyfriend to her new boyfriend candidate.

I always preferred Tifa over Aeris. I got Tifa on Gold Saucer date sequence, and in my game, Cloud and Tifa had lots of romantic moments near the end of the game. IMHO, the game made it very clear that Cloud got over Aeris's death, chose to live on and winded up with Tifa, the girl who he has fancied ever since his childhood (if you were nice to Tifa and got her to date you, that is...). That's why I find it a bit weird that in Kingdom Hearts, (KH SPOILER)Cloud and Aeris got together in the end. I know they just showed Cloud walking to Aeris, but I still think that's more or less a symbol of Cloud choosing Aeris and finally getting her.

[TheAbominatrix]

Well Cloud and Aeris are seen together in Tactics, as well. And it's Tifa and Cloud in Ergeiz. I havent played Tactics, but I'm told he's protecting her in it. Regardless of who winds up with who, Aeris is a fan favorite in Japan, or so I'm told, and there's no romance in any of those games, just Cloud protecting Aeris in both. And I dont know how much story is in Ergheiz

[Wightraven]

Not to mention Kingdom Hearts where Kingdom Heartsin the end Aeris and Cloud reunite rather touchingly. It also makes reference to Cloud searching for her during the game.

I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with anything, really, but it goes along with the information Abominatrix pointed out.