Tifa's Questionable Behavior - CONTAINS SPOILERS

[TheAbominatrix]

The point is, you cant judge people by their clothing. I dress like a criminal, and I've even had cops called on me and my other punkish friends because people automatically think we're hoodlums. And I am very, very law abiding.

Tifa's clothing doesnt make her a whore, Aeris' doesnt make her virginal. Tifa did nothing in the game (and please dont start with the hypothetical situations again, people) to brand her as a whore. She was called one because of her clothes and breast size. Aeris is a bit more forward, which could be considered slutty, but her innocent act and clothes covered it up.

Point being? Switch the clothes before the game is released and 20 bucks says Aeris would be branded the tramp. Like Yuna in X-2. Yuna is sweet and innocent, but because of her new outfit, the world is calling her a whore, before they even know of her actions.

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Yea Tifa had big breast and wear tight clothes, that doesn't make her a slut; like what abominatrix said. And also, Aeris might dress up like a sweet girl, but is she that innocent?? lol bah! I just don't like Aeris >_>

But the point is has Tifa done anything in the game, that was slutty?? Nope. I don't remember her hanging all over Cloud and doing all that you know what stuff.

[Miriel]

Well I never really liked Aries but I wouldn't call her a slut. Sure she flirted a bit more than Tifa but I wouldn't call that slut-like behaivor.

In my opinion, neither of them were sluts.

[SOLDIER #819]

I think some people are judging way too much on a certain aspect of the game, and not looking at the full picture. They pick out a point about the character that they dislike, or feel it to be negative. Then they "blow it up" (photo-wise), and make it look like it's the entire picture. This goes for just about any character, in my opinion, and it's been done with so many different games that it isn't funny.

In this case, Tifa's clothing. In other cases, Aeris/Aerith's outgoing personality. In other, other cases, Cloud's semi-disturbed attitude. It's been done just about everywhere, from boards, to fanfiction (Funny and serious.), and so forth. People just hone in on a singular point about them, or judge them at one angle, like Raistlin said, and magnify it, ignoring everything else and using that singular point as their only "evidence". Although, I don't agree with what Raistlin said about Aeris. =P

But about Tifa's relationship with Cloud:

*INCOMING DISC 2 SPOILERS*

I've read around a bit, and, you can basically consider a rumor, since I don't have any absolute proof, but if I remember correct, during the scene, at the end of Disc 2, where all the members of AVALANCHE "return from returning" to who/what they care for, and Cloud and Tifa are left to their own accord, there'll (supposedly) be a seen in which the dialogue and actions for Tifa vary, depending on how well Cloud treats her (Current "Love Point" level.). The scene takes place in the engine room (Where you talk to Yuffie about motion sickness, the Materia contract, etc.) where Tifa finds out that AVALANCHE had been there for quite some time. Tifa's reaction varies there.

But again, I have no idea if it is truthful or not. And no, I am not using this as an argument of any sort, I just wanted to bring it some attention, since this topic is...About Tifa? Then again, it may not be, although feedback (I hope supported feedback.) would be nice either way, lol.

*END DISC 2 SPOILERS*

I don't have much else to add. "Don't judge a book by it's cover."? Don't judge a person on first glance or first spoken words?

Oh, and one last thing. I personally don't think Aeris was interested in Cloud only because he reminded her of Zack. Firstly, I think her interest in Cloud (Not romantically, but as a person.) was peaked (In part) because he acted like Zack, but I don't think it's the reason she would have liked him romantically. I say this because...

*INCOMING DISC 1 SPOILERS*

If you decide to go on a date with Aeris, she'll say something during the Gondola scene. She basically says that she wants "to meet him". Of course, Cloud has no idea what she means. But I think what she meant by it was that Aeris had finally understood that Cloud was indeed putting on a subconscious charade, acting like Zack, and that it wasn't who he really was. So therefore, she wanted to meet him, or the real him.

Eep, I babbled on a bit too much there. Gwu, sorry. =|

[TheAbominatrix]

You may babble, but you do it so well. I always look forward to your comments on just about any thread.

[droggen]

Originally posted by SOLDIER #819
I think some people are judging way too much on a certain aspect of the game, and not looking at the full picture. They pick out a point about the character that they dislike, or feel it to be negative. Then they "blow it up" (photo-wise), and make it look like it's the entire picture. This goes for just about any character, in my opinion, and it's been done with so many different games that it isn't funny.

In this case, Tifa's clothing. In other cases, Aeris/Aerith's outgoing personality. In other, other cases, Cloud's semi-disturbed attitude. It's been done just about everywhere, from boards, to fanfiction (Funny and serious.), and so forth. People just hone in on a singular point about them, or judge them at one angle, like Raistlin said, and magnify it, ignoring everything else and using that singular point as their only "evidence". Although, I don't agree with what Raistlin said about Aeris. =P

But about Tifa's relationship with Cloud:

*INCOMING DISC 2 SPOILERS*

I've read around a bit, and, you can basically consider a rumor, since I don't have any absolute proof, but if I remember correct, during the scene, at the end of Disc 2, where all the members of AVALANCHE "return from returning" to who/what they care for, and Cloud and Tifa are left to their own accord, there'll (supposedly) be a seen in which the dialogue and actions for Tifa vary, depending on how well Cloud treats her (Current "Love Point" level.). The scene takes place in the engine room (Where you talk to Yuffie about motion sickness, the Materia contract, etc.) where Tifa finds out that AVALANCHE had been there for quite some time. Tifa's reaction varies there.

But again, I have no idea if it is truthful or not. And no, I am not using this as an argument of any sort, I just wanted to bring it some attention, since this topic is...About Tifa? Then again, it may not be, although feedback (I hope supported feedback.) would be nice either way, lol.

*END DISC 2 SPOILERS*

I don't have much else to add. "Don't judge a book by it's cover."? Don't judge a person on first glance or first spoken words?

Oh, and one last thing. I personally don't think Aeris was interested in Cloud only because he reminded her of Zack. Firstly, I think her interest in Cloud (Not romantically, but as a person.) was peaked (In part) because he acted like Zack, but I don't think it's the reason she would have liked him romantically. I say this because...

*INCOMING DISC 1 SPOILERS*

If you decide to go on a date with Aeris, she'll say something during the Gondola scene. She basically says that she wants "to meet him". Of course, Cloud has no idea what she means. But I think what she meant by it was that Aeris had finally understood that Cloud was indeed putting on a subconscious charade, acting like Zack, and that it wasn't who he really was. So therefore, she wanted to meet him, or the real him.

Eep, I babbled on a bit too much there. Gwu, sorry. =|

Its a true rumor.
I treated Tifa the best i could from the start.
and it showed them (In a ps1 grainy way)Kissing and tifa getting embaressed.

[Aya Nekoneko]

Well, I read every single post on this thread and I must say, it was fun while it lasted.

Anywho, I love both Aerith and Tifa. Not sure as to who I prefer but I found both of them very loving women who deserved all the love they could get (love in the most pure sense of the word...).

Now, I think that a single person can love more than one person. And I do mean this romantically. Why not? We're humans, we're born to breed (ack! too much Discovery Channel and TLC) so it makes senes that we'd wanna get intimate with... er, more than one person. And I don't even believe in true love so don't get me started on that. So what I'm saying is that maybe Cloud loved them both. It's pretty obvious that he cared a damn deal for the two of them but that's beside the point (sort of)... He showed signs that he favored the two and depending on the player, it really went either way. Well, unless he was being a tease in which case I think maybe Aerith and Tifa shoulda joined together and kicked his arse. ^_^

As for Tifa being a slut and wearing slutty clothing... Hm, I didn't find it too bad. So she wears a mini skirt? So?? She's suddenly branded a slut now because people from Sqaure (or Nomura-sensei) decided that she should have big breasts and a short skirt? People do have big breasts in real life, yknow. And not all of these breasts are fabricated. I'll give you that they were rather huge but she isn't real so they could be whatever size Square decided to make them. Shiranui Mai had big boobs but not too many people call her slutty (at least not to my knowledge). It just amazes how much of a bad rep Tifa has when she hasn't really even done anything to deserve it (besides from having big breasts that were probably given to her to bring in more FFVII players... the entire world is trying to milk us for our cash I tell you! XD Nothing is sacred anymooooore!). And that goes for Aerith as well. She's a bit bubbly and maybe a tease, but that doesn't make her a whore or anything of the sort. Her actions show nothing along the lines of her whoring about and so what if Tifa maybe has a bit more knowledge than Aerith when it comes to intimate love (which I honestly do doubt but hey, why don't I just get hypothetical here as well)? I'm sure the people at Square didn't wanna make two characters who paralleled each other completely (that would defeat the purpose of both of them being Cloud's love interests). But hey, I personally think they did a good job with the two characters. Just wish some people wouldn't judge others by the clothing they wear (especially if they work in the slums). =/ So maybe Aerith is just as sweet and innocent as she lets on and maybe Tifa isn't a slut because she wears a short skirt and tank top that highlights her, er... assests. Plus, she lived in the slums which is something i hope wasn't done by choice. They're both wonderful characters, na!

And since this is getting tooooo long... I'll say just wrap is up (or paraphrase it...) by saying I thought neither were sluts and to whomever gets Cloud (I like him and all but geez, all this shmack over one uberconfused guy), she most likely deserved him.