the church vs. the bar. What image they wanted you to have of the two girls

[TheAbominatrix]

But that doesnt answer his full question. In what ways did she act slutty? I really cant think of any, offhand. Clothes are only one half of the equation. You can look at any girl and automatically think slut or good girl based on their clothing. And if you spent some time talking to a so called 'slut' in real life, you may find that those rumors are false, and completly based on her clothing.

I could wear a super short mini skirt (which I often do, it's hard to find thrift store skirts that fit my height) and a halter top, but it doesnt change the fact that I'm a virgin. A sexually active girl could don a turtle-necked sweater and a pair of sweat pants and that wouldnt change the fact that she's sexually active.

Actions define a person far more than their looks.

[Phil]

I'd have to agree with the Abominatrix. Clothes are only the half of it. I do, however, think squaresoft wanted a somewhat nasty appearance for Tifa. The entire game could have been played witout her, except (spoiler) at the end, when she saves cloud from falling off the cliff into the center of the world. She was basically put there in my opinion for two reasons, 1; to add sexual attractiveness to the game and 2; to even out the number of girls so its not 5 boys and 2 girls. Square uses a 3/5 ratio it seems when creating character sexes.

[§håd0w]

from what i remember, it was (SPOILER) cloud who saved her

[Phil]

At the END of the game...does anybody pay attention?

[MagicKnight Locke]

in the beginning iparts i though tifa was somesort of boob showoff-later i found out hi brain was attached to his boobs.She was pretty much the worst character,got much attention and left greater chracters like vincent and nanaki on the background

[one_winged_angel]

I never actually thought about the areas affecting your view of the characters but now I think of it yeh it does in a subtle kinda way. But I never thought of Tifa as being a slut, you can tell by the way she welcomes cloud when they first meet, and about the clothes there are a number of reasons to dress like that
1. fashion
2. its what bartenders do
3. to fit in with other people in the slums

And about the gold saucer, I always thought that Shin-Ra funded it in the way on ff8 (dno if its a spoiler but ill tag it anyway) (SPOILER) garden master norg funded the garden and yet cid still 'owned' it

[alcatraz-ette]

yeah yeah enough about tifa. what about aeris?

it's like from the moment you meet her she immediately latches onto cloud. she's always flirting with him, asking him for a date, etc. i don't really give a crap if she wants to hook up with him, but there's one problem.

what about zack?

aeris was still zack's 'official' girlfriend. we don't find out he's dead until you reach gongaga. so before that she was officially cheating on zack. definitely not the behavior you'd expect from someone you meet in a church.

[darkchrono]

hadn't it been years since she had seen him.

if your significant other suddenly disappeared and you never saw them again. Would you never act out your attraction towards someone else simply because you had never actually officially broken up with that significant other.

We're not talking about marriage here.

[TheAbominatrix]

It had been about seven years since he'd last written his parents, yes. But still, it doesnt change the fact that Aeris hangs all over Cloud. That's still not 'church girl' behavior. *shrugs*

[Big D]

Well, she never made any overt 'moves' on him. Most of what she did. I think, was just teasing him because of his romance-shy attitude and actions.

She goes to a Church; that doesn't mean she has to act like a fundamentalist puritan or anything. Her Church is for worshipping the Planet, the Cetra and life in general, I think.

As for Zack... he went away for a routine mission and never came back. After five years, it's understandable that she'd move on. After all, she'd only have been 17 or so when he went away. Teenage romances, for all their many-splendoured wonders, aren't always the most solid or lasting arrangements, it seems...

[TheAbominatrix]

Of course. But it doesnt fit into this whole 'Tifa is a whore because she runs a bar' and 'Aeris isnt because she hangs out in a church' dealy bob.

[Big D]

...which is why I, like you, have little faith in sweeping generalisations based on characters' environments.

[darkchrono]

Hmm, Aeris's flirting isn't church girl behavior.

Are you saying church girls can't flirt.

People who attend alot of church social groups often think about sex just as much as the bar hoppers do.

They just tend to be a little more choosey when searching for someone whom they will have sexual relationship with. 'IE' Instead of foolishly falling for the hot guy or girl whom they have nothing in common with accept for physical attraction. They will wait for someone to come along who they are attracted to and also have alot in common with.

Church goers can be quite flirtatious to. They often times just have higher standards and are looking for more than the bar hoppers are.

I think Aeris had high standards though. Which would be church girl behavior.

[TheAbominatrix]

Actually no, being flirty isnt considered chaste church behavior. I'm not saying that they dont do it, but what I'm saying is, if you're going to hold Tifa to where she appears, then you have to Aeris to where she appears as well. Being overly flirty isnt the correct behavior of a church going girl. Does that make Aeris a bad person? No, of course not. But Tifa isnt a bad person, either. Having 'high standards' really has little to do with it, especially since she jumped on the first guy who reminded her of Zack.

[alcatraz-ette]

whoa, was it really 5-7 years? oops!

i don't think anybody's saying church girls can't flirt. but (as mentioned above) it's unfair to give tifa the bar person cliche while not doing the same for aeris.

as for the high standards thing. i wouldn't really know, i don't go to church. but, for ther record, not all bar hoppers will just drop their skirt/pants at some hot person.