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    I never said Zidane should hate Kuja. All I did was point out the relationship between Kuja and Zidane. And in fact, Kuja was supposed to be the one who hated Zidane, not the other way around. Zidane was created to be smarter, stronger, and all around just plain better than Kuja. Kuja hated and loathed the fact that he could be so easily replaced at the whim of Garland, and it's Kuja's hatred of both Zidane and Garland which drives him to do the things he did.

    Zidane was so hell bent on beating Kuja because he saw the pain and suffering Kuja was causing his friends. That's a big part of Zidane's character (whether people will admit to it or not, but I'm not going to argue that point), he generally cares for other people. Does he think of himself before other people sometimes? Yes. All sentient creatures do. But when his friends need him, he's there. When Garnet is in trouble, he goes to her. When Armarant doesn't come out of Ispen's Castle, Zidane goes to check up on him. When Freya rushes to Burmecia, Zidane opts to go along. When Vivi needs cheering up, Zidane does his best to get the job done. So while he didn't have all the personal motives of revenge for going after the bad guy like all the characters you listed, Zidane instead does what he does to support his friends, and because he knows its for the greater good.

    And as far as Garnet and Vivi go. You ask if anyone really liked the Queen Brahne. Garnet did. Garnet loved Brahne even after finding out Brahne wasn't even her real mother. Just because the Brahne we see in the game is cold hearted, doesn't mean she was always that way. In fact, Garnet and some of the citizens of Alexandria outright say that the queen was a caring and compassionate woman before her husband died and Kuja started manipulating her.

    As for the black mages, we have approximately two dozen of them who gain self-awareness and seek solitude to learn and grow. Except that they were created witht he curse of having severly limited lifespans. They grow to understand that stopping equates to death, and have to learn to try an accept that, an issue Vivi also has to understand. Enter Kuja who tricks and manipulates these sentient beings with alluring promises on extending their lives, and many of the mages are tricked into believing him until they realize his lies after he treats them like utter cannon fodder the entire time, and at the end of their usefulness to them, laugh and insult them calling them fools for being so easily manipulated despite the fact that they have the minds of children. That is what the black mages essentially are: children. And that's plenty of motivation for Vivi to stop Kuja.

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    nicely put american badass, ive noticed there isnt much inbetween with this game, either you like it or you dont. I say its the best in the serries others say its the worst. It all depends on what type of games you like, the humor in FFIX sets this game apart from the others in the seires and gives the game a lot more of its own style. Nobody wants to play a final fantasy game that is to much like one of the others.
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    I dont really place one ff over the other...I like them all equally. and theres certain thing in each one that i like more than others such as the music in IX- I think it has the best soundtrack over any ff.

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    Too kiddy.....
    ......BLAH.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar
    It's the same as me and FFVIII. I hate it while others love it.
    Yup, totally right.

    Except for one thing. I like all Final Fantasy's! (at least for the ones I played)

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    For one thing, I don't think this is the most hated FF in the series (Go and check on FFX-2 forum to see what I'm talking about). For me, anyway, FF9 is a good game but it is probably not the best in the series by far. What really bother me about this game is the storyline. No, it isn't bad or anything. I did not get the sense of completion at the ending. It is like something is missing there just can not explain it. Nevertheless, I really enjoy the game. Vivi is one of the best character in the whole series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorIzEE27
    Too kiddy.....
    *dies of laughter*

    LOL .... you're joking, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorIzEE27
    Too kiddy.....
    Thats actually Kingdom Hearts, FFIX is not the worst, FFX-2 is
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    no its non of the above. play ffII(jap) and tell me ffVIII, IX and even X-2 are worse then that? i bet u cant (i gotta stop these anti ffII rants)
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    *dies of laughter* LOL....you're joking, right?
    The main characters a monkey right?
    ......BLAH.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorIzEE27
    The main characters a monkey right?
    mithras have tails too...

    well anyways, Zidane is a genome, but Sora has a duck and a talking dog in his party O_o
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    IX was the only FF game that I bought almost exactly when it came out, you could fell the heat, and It was just addictive. I donīt care the children orientation (rope game for example), I enjoy it like a player and not like a FF fan, and then It became a real FF Game after I finished it. I donīt like the fact that the story was closed complety straight at the end, I want misteries to solve !, talk about the game for years !, for example... Iīm working right on my theory about Zidane , It explains how he was born in the planet vegita, he is the Brother of Son gokou , and if you really noticed it , Kuja looks like freezer with Vegeta personality ! What a mistery !, something got to explain that tail !.

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    honestly, i hated 9 at first too. donno why, just did. but like a month ago my bro bought it and so i said 'what the hell' and played it. now it's just another FF game i love. if anything, the tides have turned and now i don't like 8...it pisses me off. haha
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    I remember buying my PS2, and never having a PSX, quickly snagged all of these games up before FFX was released, and out of them all IX was one of the highest ones ranked in which i like, maybe its because i played the old ones and i felt that your "kiddy" feelings to the game didnt apply, and that it was a nicely done FF.

    Anyway i have no idea why any of you are so hell bent of hating Zidane for his tail. I for one like it, its unique, something DIFFERENT. A human main character has been done many many times. A tail although is a minor change, made me like it a bit more that it is different than the rest. Not to mention it added to some of the humour in the game. Hating a character just for the tail is a pretty...weak reason to hate something..O.o Something different always will catch my eye and make me think. Plus why do we want the same thing all the time? What happened to innovation?

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    I personally, think 9 is great. Not as good as 7, but still good. I liked the characters, the story, the gameplay, everything.

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