ok, Big D, i see, but what happened to him AFTER you kill him. if you go back later, there are two shumis there talking about NORG hatching from whatever that was he left behind (an Egg of some sort?) i think that is what kikyo meant. I really would like to know, also. maybe it is a loose end they will tie up in FFVIII-2 (If that ever happens):rolleyes2