Sephiroth... major spoilers that might change your view on who is the best villain!!!

[§håd0w]

Ok, I'm not gonna mark this, since the title specifically states there are gonna be many spoilers floating about.


Sephiroth is speculated to be in his 30s, but that is physcally impossible. Sephiroth is actually the youngest character in the game aside from other NPCs. Vincent once dated Lucrecia, and she gave birth to Sephiroth. At the youngest, Vincent might have been 16 when he was in the Turks, but more than likely he wasnt any younger, since that was when Cloud "joined SOLDIER" was around 16. Vincent has been alilve longer than Sephiroth, seeing as he was alive when Sephiroth was bron, and is only 22 now when the game takes place. Therefore, if Square had given this any thought whatsoever, they would have made Vincent in his 30s. Unless Sephroth ages rediculously fast, which it does not say that anywhere in the game, then Sephiroth is 6-8 years old at the maximum. Which makes me wonder how Cloud knew about him. Square obviously didn't think this over and now it has really screwed the plot up big time.

Cloud states "I wanna be just like Sephiroth." when Sephiroth is only about 2 or 3 when that happens. And the only other thing that could make Sephiroth older is if Vincent was in the Turks when he was about 10. Then that would have put Sephiroth in his preteen years. Its just kinda funny, that everyone looks up to him, and sees him as a wise, older, leader person. When he is only 6-8 years old.

Sephiroth "We have an early day ahead of us"
*menu* 'It's still early' (might not be exact wording)
Choose > 'Let's call it a day'
Sephiroth "Ok, but I'm not waking you up "

[MonkeyFellow]

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[JonJonB]

The crux of your argument is based on Vincent's age, while you fail to realise that coffin he was in was a form of suspended animation (either that or the experiments halted his aging process). Vincent's given age is merely physical, Sephiroth really was in his thirties.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Vincent was twenty-six years old when he was placed in the coffin, and he slept in stasis there for thirty years. So, while he has the body of a twenty-six-year-old, he's technically fifty-six years old.

[PhoenixAsh]

Besides Sephiroth being a puppet who gets used or beaten by almost everyone he meets already set him pretty low in my best villain category.

[Big D]

...Yet I maintain that Sephiroth was the 'superior evil', a heartless blend of Jenova's deceptive malice and Human megalomania, with an unhealthy dose of arrogance and ruthlessness thrown in. The worst of both worlds, if you like.

[TheAbominatrix]

I fully agree with PhoenixAsh on this one, as strange as that sounds.

[Big D]

'Jenova or Sephiroth' is one of those long-running debates which gets aired now and then... however, I've been working on a masterpiece thesis which will forever tip the scales of reasoning in favour of Sephiroth.
*Nod*

[TheAbominatrix]

I dont like either of them, to be honest. Jenova wasnt really actively involved, Sephiroth was far too angsty for me.

[Big D]

I'm not 'rating' their relative levels of coolness; rather, I'm referring the conspiracy which would have you believe that Sephiroth doesn't really do anything at all in the game after the (SPOILER)Nibelheim incident.

[TheAbominatrix]

Ah, my mistake.

[Big D]

...And an easy one to make.
Jenova is perhaps one of the least involved FF villains ever, if you go by her level of direct involvement in events during the game.

In answer to masamune1287's original topic, though... the issue of Vincent's age and Sephiroth's age is one that just keeps coming back. The fact that Mr Valentine (SPOILER)spent decades in suspended animation is never directly addressed in the game, at least not in relation to the way it affects his age.

[§håd0w]

thats what got me, they never mentioned how long vincent was in the coffin, thats how i got this idea.

[DaMagicSausage]

now isn't their 2 sepheroths... (bad spelling i know) or prehaps a ohysycal projection of one that sepheroth is giving while he is incased in materia... i thought that one of the scientists (probibly hojo) said that the first speheroth clone was the only sucessful one, was created 5 years ago... and the real sepheroth was "killed." I think i confused myself. Anyway i had those two theorys...

1. sepheroth is making a projection of himself though the materia, or 2. the first clone that was created 5 years ago was the only one that lived... maybe he was clones at he full age of 30, so now the clone is 35...

lots of wierd questions here

[§håd0w]

cloud was really the only succesful clone