Why FFIX is the Worst FF EVER!

[Phil]

Sorry 'bout that Legolas. No hard feelings. Okay lets start again. THe reason Zidane didnt remember the Terrans is because he was sent to Gaia at a young age. Its the same with Goku and the Saiyans. As for him being weak, thats all opinionative. Garnet however, could kick all the other girls butts. She could summon the different creatures which, when boosted, were amazingly powerful. They also looked really cool. Now summons

Shiva- the first attempt at a non-porn shiva. Good job
Ifrit- really nice original moves. Ifrit in ff7 lookded dumb, and the one in 8 had an annurism in his neck
Leviathan- this summon sent shivers down my spine. The graphics were awesome
Madeen- perfect and orginal
Ferenir- I agree with the golem statement
Ark- cool looking but not worth gettting
Phoenix- useful when Eiko isnt the first one to frikkin die like she always does
Carbuncle- 8's was better because the graphics were smoother
Atomos- great and orginal
Ramuh- quezacotal was far better
Odin- by far the best looking odin attack imo
Bahamut- great looking and original. Bahamut Zero was better though
Alexander- no opinion. You see him once and he dies. Youc ant realy judge this one

Now as for terra, on the sexes. Look at page 3. That should explain it. As for Kuja looking unlike a geonome, thats because he hid his tail under his ...... dress? Well either way he had a tail but Garland even said he hides it. I guess he grew his hair out and it turned white from a climate change, or mabey mist. They have names because they were the first Geonomes created with soulS. They were created to do Garland's business. As for Necron being random, the same can be said with most of the final bosses with the exception of Safer Sephiroth, who stayed sephiroth the entire game. As for trance, I like it. The moves were an original, and imo, were steps ahead of 7 and 8. In those games, you could control your trance and go whoop up on a boss. How easy is that? Really easy. Stupidly Easy. Imo. Now onto Ozma, he was a push from the WEAPONS. The square team wanted to try something different from the unbeatable Omega Weapon. If you can find ONE person who has beaten Omega Weapon, i'd give him my bank account just for being an FF god. Ozma was mabey a little to easy, but he was defenately a step away from the ff past. The weapons got old and were used too much imo. Thats just me.

[Xander]

The thing that bugged me about Ozma was that he looked like a huge bouncy ball Not some terrifying creature. Who wants to fight a bouncy ball?? ^-~

And Zidane being a "horny guy" didn't bother me He was more upbeat and chirpy than Cloud and Squall and as much as I liked their characters, it was good to have something a bit different!

I can see what your getting at in a lot of things you say Legolas63 I can't really comment on the storyline because all the in-depth stuff about it goes over my head and I don't really concern myself with it much.

As for Garnet being weak, I'm not sure I agree, at the beginning of the game she was planning to escape from the castle and from the Queen, that was her decision and her plan. She was unhappy at a lot of points but this shouldn't necessarily be seen as a weakness, I thought she was pretty strong just had a lot to go through ^^

[PhoenixAsh]

Zidane kidnapping Dagger was enough incentive for Steiner to be justifiably angry and distrustful. As far as Cid and Baku being his bosses, neither were. I'm fairly sure Zidane didn't even know about Cid's involvement, and he quit Tantalus.
It might be funny for Zidane to act the way he does, as it may have been funny if Squall had donned a tutu for the concert scene and pretended to be a chocobo while Rinoa was talking. It doesn't mean it means making a character something they aren't at the expense of story for laughs is a good thing.

Vincent06, I have beaten Omega (I assume you mean from VIII), as have many people on this forum. If you know the game he's a pushover. If you don't he's unbelievable. That's one thing I like about VII and VIII over IX, they reward you for being a good player, not for being a patient one.

[Xander]

You say "making a character something they aren't" but that's what Zidane was. The way he acted to Steiner was part of his "cheeky" if you like, character.
Squall wearing a tutu wouldn't be part of his character, obviously but Zidane being rude to Steiner was his personality. I don't really see what your getting at... (no offence intended!)

How do you think the story would have gone if Zidane didn't act like that? If he didn't kidnap Garnet...it was the starting point for the whole game, it had to be done, Zidane had to be like he was. It was what made him Zidane. And I liked him that way

[Zantetsuken !!!]

Well... Vincent 06 if you tought that Omega Weapon was umbeatable ( with that bunch of Holy War he's not ) try playing FF5 and beat Omega ( yup, Daddy Omega ) tha's a fu**** hard boss, afterwards hes the Daddy Omega, all the Weapons so as Ozma are all frakin easy compared to Omega, i was at lvl 35 when i first saw him, tough he was an ordinary monster like some that look like him, my deception is that i died in 2 seconds, then i came back there on lvl 99 and died on 10 seconds, then i spend an hour to figure how to beat him, plus 30 minutes to kill the godamn thing , but im the end i killed the beast and know what i got ??? just a little token for beating him up..... im still very mad at that Omega stuff ( urgh...how i hate freakin Omega)

[UltimaSepheroth]

let's all just get along.. dur! we cud go to a happy place and do... HAPPY tHiNgS! gnahh!:rabite: :rabite: :rabite: :rabite: :rabite: :rabite:

[American Badass]

Originally posted by Legolas63
For example, why didn’t he know the truth about him and fellow Terrans? I don’t remember Garland whipping his memory. If he is an “Angel Of Death” surly he would know his purpose?

It is stated in the game that Kuja purposefully took Zidane and stranded him on Terra soon after he was created. Thats why all Zidane can remember is the light that the other Genomes were looking at. Other than that, Zidane has absolutely no recollection of anything else because he was not on Terra long enough to remember.

Originally posted by Legolas63
GARNET- She was a bit weak(Personality, not Stats). Tifa (FF7), Rinoa (FF8) & Yuna (FF10) could all handle themselves, yet still have that bit of weakness that made them human. Garnet was all weak, or as some say, a bit damp. Yet again, Maybe Square wanted to distance themselves from strong women, but who wants to play as a wimp?

I disagree with this one completely. Garnet is one of the strongest female characters in Final Fantasy, right on par with Terra and Celes from FFVI. From the very beginning, Garnet was willing to risk her safety to escape the Alexandria palace to get to her uncle Cid to warn him of her mother's actions, and try to get his help. It so happened that Zidane, whose orders were to kidnap her to take her to Lindblum, showed up.

After staying in Lindblum for a bit, she sneaks out with Steiner in an effort to get back to Alexandria to try to convince her mother to stop what she's doing. Along that journey, she meets up with Marcus, and helps him obtain something that will help return Blank to his normal self, since he was petrified in the process of helping everyone to save her in the Dark Forest. So she puts aside her own interests to help someone because she feels responsible for Blank's current state.

And beyond that, Garnet assumes the throne of Alexandria when he mother dies, and takes on the heavy burden of ruling a kingdom, and defends that kingdom when Kuja attacks it.

And beyond all else, after seeing her mother die, after seeing her kingdom devastated, after learning about who she really is and where she comes from, she accepts all that has happened to her, and hardens her resolve to stop Kuja and Garland in their tracks.

And one last thing to note of Garnet, when Zidane loses himself in Terra, she returns the favor by coming to his aid when he needs it. She went from being quite oblivious to the outside world to being a capable young woman ready and willing to both defend and help her friends when the situation arises, as she proves throughout the game.

Originally posted by Legolas63
TERRA- (Spoilers ahead)
Right if Zidane is a Genome &, as is Kuja. Why does Kuja look so different?

You have to consider what motivates Kuja to understand why he looks different from the other Genomes. Garland makes mention of Kuja denying what he is, and he's exactly right. Kuja changes his appearance to deny what he is, because to acknowledge his birthright is to acknowledge that he is lesser than Garland. And Kuja's one motivation throughout the entire game, more than anything else is to prove to Garland that he is better than Garland. That's why for most of the game, Kuja looks so different.

Originally posted by Legolas63
Also, why is Terra, a life-sucking machine? Why is Garland, wanting to consume Gaia. If he did that, then Terra would eventually perish cause theirs no more souls to consume?

How could you miss this part of the story? Ok, Terra was once a thriving planet. But, for some reason, Terra started to decline in prosperity. The scientists on the planet did everything they could to prevent it, but ultimately, could not stop the process. So, in desperation, the Terrans created Garland and left him in charge of assimilating Terra into the thriving Gaia while they slept. Garland attempted to assimilate Terra into Gaia by force, but succeeded in only a psuedo-assimilation, meaning that the assimilation was incomplete, but that they were still signs of Terra on Gaia, most notably Oeilvert, Ispen's Castle, and more than likely, the four shrines.

After his failed assimilation, Garland went for a more roundabout, but effective way of assimilation. He figured out that Gaia's cycle of life consisted of souls being born out of the crystal, living life in a corporeal body until the body dies, at which point the soul returns to the crystal. Garland designed the Iifa tree to act as a block for the Gaian souls returning to the crystal. That's why he wanted Kuja to get wars raged on Gaia, so that the cycle can be accelerated. At the point in which the last soul on Gaia left to return to the crystal, the Iifa tree would then cycle the Terran souls (who were in hibernation since their civilization fell) into the souless Genomes, who would then in habit Gaia which would be completely be assimilated by Terra since there were no new Gaian souls being transferred to Gaia.

Originally posted by Legolas63
If they have no personality, why did Kuja & Zidane develop one? Also, why do they have names, if they are dolls? Maybe I wasn’t paying attention, but I want explanation.

Garland said it himself. When Kuja was created, Kuja had too strong of a will to be like all the other genomes, and Garland did not want to discard him, so he made use of Kuja by sending him to Gaia to start wars. Kuja was actually a freak accident by having a strong will when he was created. Technically, that wasn't supposed to happen. All Garland did was make use of the situation. Zidane, on the other hand, was created specifically to be stronger than Kuja so that he could take Kuja's place. Kuja has personality because he was born that was by accident. Zidane has personality because he was born, but then shortly stranded on Gaia where he was apoted by Tauntlus and he developed his own personality from then on.

Originally posted by Legolas63
NECRON- (Spoilers)
So Necron is evil and the final boss. Why? He has no part in the story, no mention. Maybe it would have been better if he was metioned like as a myth. Same about the crystal, why is it not mentioned until the end. Very annoying, and it feels like they were chucked in at the last minute to add some weight to the tale.

I actually agree with the Necron part. I disliked the fact that he was thrown in there, and would have liked a mention of some kind of rumor regarding him. However, from a literary standpoint, Necron was there for the sole purpose of being able to make Kuja a tragic villain.

As for the crystal, although it wasn't mentioned until towards the very end, you can see where it comes into play if you understand how Garland is assimilating Gaia. I explained that above.

[PhoenixAsh]

Xander:

You say "making a character something they aren't" but that's what Zidane was. The way he acted to Steiner was part of his "cheeky" if you like, character.
Squall wearing a tutu wouldn't be part of his character, obviously but Zidane being rude to Steiner was his personality. I don't really see what your getting at... (no offence intended!)

People were suggestion humour as an excuse for Zidane acting like he did. His character being arrogant and disrespectful isn't justified by it being "The way he is" either.

How do you think the story would have gone if Zidane didn't act like that? If he didn't kidnap Garnet...it was the starting point for the whole game, it had to be done, Zidane had to be like he was. It was what made him Zidane. And I liked him that way

Dagger had to come with them, but it didn't have to happen like that. She had intended to sneak on the ship, and could have done so without them trying to kidnap her.
Or alternatively and more sensibly, Zidane could have actually explained his actions himself, or it could have been indicated that he even knew the real reason for the abduction. He also could have shown more respect for someone who was only doing their job, and given him a reason not to think he was just a thieving, kidnapping, (possibly) rapist.

[Xander]

Well I can see where your coming from... (still Ziddy though )

[Stupid Moomba 88]

What about the Music? i feel FFIX has quite poor music and the only good ones are the simple piano ones (Melodies of Life & Loss Of Me) and the Dark ones, that are a bit like FFVIII (Padimona and Ilfa Tree) Ohg Yeah, the Theme was good too, but all the rest were a bit rubbish.

Oh yeah, I hated that beach ball Ozma too. still, he was a change from Dragonlike Weapons that were in EVERY game

[Jack]

Some more discussion points.

AMARANT (Spoilers)
Amarant isn’t a “don't talk to me" "I don't care" "too-cool-for-school" character with a nifty weapon. He’s a silent, unlovable character who tries to be a rebel. Squall & Cloud had problems (Squall lost his “sister”, adopted to fight, and has a pressuring rival. He doesn’t know his parents, and can’t remember his childhood at the orphanage.) And (Cloud tried to join SOILDER, failed, became a lowly guard, killed Sephiroth and lived a lie. He was also warped by Jenova, Hojo & his rival.).
Hell, even Kimarhri in FFX siad somthing, and the rerason why he was silent because his WHOLE race wasn't big on talking.
Amarant had no problems. He just wanted to be cool. I felt he was just added to fill in an empty space in the roster. Also, his story has gaps in. Why did he become a thief? When did he meet Zidane? About that bit in Ispen’s castle. Why was he trying to be a rebel? What did he have to prove? If was SUCH a rebel, why did he join a bunch of miss-matched guys on saving the world. Cloud got wrapped up in it, thanks To AVALAUCHE and Squall had a mission that went wrong (He should have assinated the Sorceress)

KIDNAP
Yes, Zidane acting cheeky WAS funny. But, why act that way. A knight with a big sword was threating a street rat, with a tiny dagger. Obvoisly, Zidane must be a prick if he’s gonna be a idiot like that. Also, why didn’t he explain himself to Stenier. It would have caused less commotion, and might have got to Lindblum without getting shot down. (I understand it was there for the game to be exciting, but it was a kinda weak way of getting the plot going)
Kidnap is a big crime, even bigger if it’s the Queens daughter. Surely, if a petty thief was going along with this, he’d be VERY nervous. But Zidane wasn’t. That either means he is a stupid risk taker with no fear of death, or he KNEW that the king was behind it and knew that he would back them up should hey need it. Or maybe, they were blackmailed into it by Cid.

STORY (Spoilers)
Thanks for the heads up on some parts of the story. Heres some more bits that I felt, didn’t make sense.
· When you find out Garnet’s real name, why doesn’t Garnet find out, or Zidane tries to protect the truth from her? In FF8, Selphie his the truth about her from Squall and Co (In Trabia Garden)
· Why could Kuja make Black Mages out of Mist?
· If you can see Gaia from Terra, and you can see Terra from Gaia, why didn’t anyone know (Except Kuja & Garland) about the two’s existence. Why didn’t anyone mention, “Terra’s looking rather Red tonight” or sumthing. Noone mentions it!
· Why do Genomes have tails?

TERRA (Spoliers)

AmericanBadass:

How could you miss this part of the story? Ok, Terra was once a thriving planet. But, for some reason, Terra started to decline in prosperity. The scientists on the planet did everything they could to prevent it, but ultimately, could not stop the process. So, in desperation, the Terrans created Garland and left him in charge of assimilating Terra into the thriving Gaia while they slept. Garland attempted to assimilate Terra into Gaia by force, but succeeded in only a psuedo-assimilation, meaning that the assimilation was incomplete, but that they were still signs of Terra on Gaia, most notably Oeilvert, Ispen's Castle, and more than likely, the four shrines.

After his failed assimilation, Garland went for a more roundabout, but effective way of assimilation. He figured out that Gaia's cycle of life consisted of souls being born out of the crystal, living life in a corporeal body until the body dies, at which point the soul returns to the crystal. Garland designed the Iifa tree to act as a block for the Gaian souls returning to the crystal. That's why he wanted Kuja to get wars raged on Gaia, so that the cycle can be accelerated. At the point in which the last soul on Gaia left to return to the crystal, the Iifa tree would then cycle the Terran souls (who were in hibernation since their civilization fell) into the souless Genomes, who would then in habit Gaia which would be completely be assimilated by Terra since there were no new Gaian souls being transferred to Gaia.

Ok. I believe all that happened, but I have a few questions with it.
· What did Terra once look like? Was it bit like Gaia?
· What do you mean decline? Am I right in saying that the WHOLE planet was falling apart, with would explain the almost skelaton like layout and style of Terra.
· If Garland was created, does that mean he is a Geonome as well?
· Why was assimulating into gaia the only way?
· What did Terraen’s look like? Wouldn’t it been cool if Garland showed his masters as they slept.

Oh yeah, if Kuja and Zidane were dolls, why did they have names> Did Garland give Kuja that name and Baku give Zidane that name?

Another problem with Terra. (This is just a personal thing) If it was a planet, wouldn’t it been better to have a world map. FF5 did just that. I feel that would have been better then just making it a FIELD map.

MOGS
I love mogs, and I was disappointed when FFX didn’t have any living breathing Moogles. However, there were far too many Mogs. It just got a bit sickly sweet after a while. Also, why aren’t any Moomba’s in it. I no, they are from F8’s world. But Moogles & Chocobo’s are in almost all the FF worlds, so why not Moombas? That would have been a great reference to a previous FF, and since they are great creatures, would have been a nice addition. But no, they add those Qus.

QUIENA (Spoilers)
I hate this character. Toatlly unlikable, sice all it does is obsess with food. Fat, Ugly, terrible weapon (A FORK!!!!???) and altogether hideous appeareance. I’m not saying characters have to look nice, but other then his blue magic, was a pretty appaling character. His story (Or what little there was) was weak. Something to do with a dude in a cave near Treno? What story is that?

MUSIC
Since someone brought it up again, I’ll carry on. I feel the music for FFIX is under par, and isn’t original. When the FF went to CD, I felt the muisic quality would get higher. And I wasn’t diaspointed.

FF7 had moody tones, but they were still cartoonish.
FF8 had dark, menacing songs & tunes. Good Piano bits, and for the fierst time, a theme song with words!
FF9 had some really plinkt tunes, some fair piano bits, Hardly any grown up dark, powerful songs & a not-as-good theme song with words
FF10 had some annoying tunes (Dire Thunder Plains, but some FANTASTIC ones and two great songs (Suteki da Ne & song of prayer)

So I see FF9 as the weakest link there. It’s just the music wsn’t inspiaing. Have you seen Donnie Darko? The music fits the tone, and makes some good scenes great. However, some FF9 ones didn’t fit the scene, and that’s why I didn’t like it. The tune I didn’t think fitted the scene was Alexandria when Vivi wanted the ticket.

WEAPONS (Spoilers)
I like the weapons. (Ruby, Omega & Ultima) They were cool if bloody hard. Plus, if this is a look back to previous FF's then having the weapons would be a clever idea. Even if as something you see in a painting, or a book.
Oh yeah, Ultima & Omega Weapon in FFX are VERY EASY.
Ultimate & Diamond & Emerald in FF7 are also Easy (If you have the Underwater Materia for Emarald).m It's only Ruby (ff7) & Omega (ff8) that are F***Ing Hard. i haven't beaten Omega, but I Have beaten Ruby.

MAGIC
why reduce Ultima to THAT? I like FF7's, FF6's, & FF8's version of Ultima then this one. This one was poor. Although, it looked like APOCLYSPE from FF8 a bit (Lasers)
Some of the Magic attacks looked a bit lame I must say. Still, Square were trying a "new" style so I can't complain. Ho hum.

Like I’ve said before. I just didn’t feel that FFIX was a bad FF. Not a bad GAME. But a BAD FF

[PhoenixAsh]

Legolas can you avoid making unmarked spoilers for other FFs please? I only got one in that last post because I'd played most of the games, but you gave some pretty huge ones.
If someone could tag those it'd be good, but it doesn't affect me now so either way.

[American Badass]

Originally posted by Legolas63
·When you find out Garnet’s real name, why doesn’t Garnet find out, or Zidane tries to protect the truth from her? In FF8, Selphie his the truth about her from Squall and Co (In Trabia Garden)

Technically speaking, finding out about Garnet's real name is not part of the flowing story. Finding out her real name is a sidequest, so player could go through the game never knowing Garnet's real name.

Since her real name is a sidequest, it wouldn't make sense for there to be a scene where Zidane tells Garnet her real name, especially if players never did the sidequest.

Its kind of like in FFVII, you can get Yuffie or Vincent as extra characters, but they don't appear in the FMV at the end regardless of whether you get them or not.

Originally posted by Legolas63
·Why could Kuja make Black Mages out of Mist?

Its never explicitly stated in the game how Kuja is able to make Black Mages out of Mist. But this is not the only thing thats never been truly explained in a Final Fantasy game. And in this situation, like the others, Square leaves a little room to develop theories.

Originally posted by Legolas63
·If you can see Gaia from Terra, and you can see Terra from Gaia, why didn’t anyone know (Except Kuja & Garland) about the two’s existence. Why didn’t anyone mention, “Terra’s looking rather Red tonight” or sumthing. Noone mentions it!

This one is kind of hard to explain. There used to be a diagram on FFIX's Online Ultimania website that was useful in explaining this, but since the website no longer exists...

Suffice to say, you can't see Terra when you are on Gaia. The only way to get to Terra is by way of the Shimmering Island portal which connects Terra to Gaia. I can't really explain it anymore than that.

Originally posted by Legolas63
·Why do Genomes have tails?

Why does Quina carry a giant fork? Why is Queen Brahne blue? There are just some unexplained things.

Originally posted by Legolas63
·What did Terra once look like? Was it bit like Gaia?

·What do you mean decline? Am I right in saying that the WHOLE planet was falling apart, with would explain the almost skelaton like layout and style of Terra.

·If Garland was created, does that mean he is a Geonome as well?

·Why was assimulating into gaia the only way?

·What did Terraen’s look like? Wouldn’t it been cool if Garland showed his masters as they slept.

- Yes, Terra was once a thriving, and quite beautiful planet, much like Gaia.

- By decline, I mean the planet was essentially dying. Vegetation and animals were dying off, nature went haywire, things of that nature. So yes, Terra was falling apart in every conceivable way.

- Not quite. Garland, while not a genome, is not your normal run of the mill type of guy either. Its never explained specifically who or what Garland is, except that he is the caretaker of Terra and was left in charge to bring Terra back to what it once was. You could theorize that he could have been magically enhanced, or mechanically enhanced either of which being completely plausable.

- Terra needed to assimilate a relatively young planet which was thriving, and Gaia was the closest one that fit that bill.

- We don't know what Terrans look like They could have looked similar to the Genomes, or similar to Garland for all we know.

Originally posted by Legolas63
Oh yeah, if Kuja and Zidane were dolls, why did they have names> Did Garland give Kuja that name and Baku give Zidane that name?

The most probable solution is that Garland did, in fact, give Kuja and Zidane their names.

Originally posted by Legolas63
Another problem with Terra. (This is just a personal thing) If it was a planet, wouldn’t it been better to have a world map. FF5 did just that. I feel that would have been better then just making it a FIELD map.

Two things. One, the trip to Terra was necessary to advance the story, and Bran Bal and Pandemonium were the only two locations required to do it. Two, by the time you visit Terra, it had become a barren wasteland. There would have been no place to go. Pandemonium was Garland's castle, and Bran Bal was where the Genomes lived. The other places like Oeilvert and Ispens's castle which were probably located on Terra once, were transferred to Gaia in the failed assimilation.

Originally posted by Legolas63
MOGS
I love mogs, and I was disappointed when FFX didn’t have any living breathing Moogles. However, there were far too many Mogs. It just got a bit sickly sweet after a while. Also, why aren’t any Moomba’s in it. I no, they are from F8’s world. But Moogles & Chocobo’s are in almost all the FF worlds, so why not Moombas? That would have been a great reference to a previous FF, and since they are great creatures, would have been a nice addition. But no, they add those Qus.

Moombas were story specific to FFVIII. It wouldn't have made sense for them to appear in any other Final Fantasy aside from VIII.

[Rostum]

Originally posted by Legolas63
AMARANT (Spoilers)
Amarant isn’t a “don't talk to me" "I don't care" "too-cool-for-school" character with a nifty weapon. He’s a silent, unlovable character who tries to be a rebel.

Amarant had no problems. He just wanted to be cool. I felt he was just added to fill in an empty space in the roster. Also, his story has gaps in. Why did he become a thief? When did he meet Zidane? About that bit in Ispen’s castle. Why was he trying to be a rebel? What did he have to prove? If was SUCH a rebel, why did he join a bunch of miss-matched guys on saving the world.

Some people in this world are just like that, they don't need reason to be. His character wasn't explained much, but I'm pretty sure that he would have had a darkish past that made him this way. Otherwise, I don't know.

He joined Zidane and co. because he lost to a fight against Zidane. He may respect someone stronger than him? I don't know. Anyways the point being in this post, is that you need to look deeper into the characters and story than what shows. Same deal with FFVII

[ShadyMilkman]

It seems to be that you aren't even attempting to undetrsand the game. You obviously don't even know the other games all that well. I mean, you didn't even spell AVALANCHE right! If you want to make one game seem superior to another (which will never work, no matter how much you try) at least make sure that YOU appear to know something about it. By the way, your grammar is pathetic.

(spoilers ahead)
Alright, let's discuss Amarant. First, he wasn't a thief, he was a mercenary. Plus, why do you try to make Cloud out to be stronger when he fails miserably at accomplishing his only childhood dream? Not to mention that surely you don't think that Cloud killed Sepiroth all those years ago..... Why does Amarant constantly rebel while still keeping with the party? Amarant lost a one on one fight to a energetic, young, and childish thief. He didn't understand how that could happen. So, he decided to follow Zidane in order to discover how he obtains such power. At the Castle of Ipsen, he tries to beat Zidane to prove that the rest of Zidane's party only brings him down. Amarant is a loner. He was trying to show Zidane that he would be better off being the same way. He fails, obviously, because a team is always stronger than an individual. As for Quina, he wasn't really a storyline character. Sort of like Vincent. If you weren't trying really frickin' hard to understand him, you weren't going to. Quina did have a purpose though. All throughout the game, the other realize that Quina's carefree indulgence is actually a better style of living. They learn from him. Freya decides that constant fretting and worry has been getting her nowhere. Why? Because she watched Quina. Vivi learned from Quina.

Music. According to most professional music critics, FFIX's music is actually cosidered superior to all others. However, the Crystal theme sounds dang familiar. Maybe this is all part of the nostalgic value of the game.


Overall, maybe I'll start taking you seriously when you actually sound like you knw what you're talking about.