Eden: What is it anyway O_O;? [Mild Spoilers]

[BG-57]

I'm kind of free associating here-sorry.

I'm reminded of the highest rating you can get for Kain in the original Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain game: 'Devourer of Worlds'. That would fit nicely for Eden. And remember that Cain was Adam and Eve's son.

I imagine that in turn was inspired the Hindu text that Oppenheimer quotes during the Atomic bomb testing : 'I am become Death; the Destroyer of Worlds'.

Maybe a little far-fetched.

[Future Esthar]

Do you note the clock in the middle of the world? It solve´s the mystery of the big clock in the tower of Ulti´s castle.

[nik0tine]

Clock in the middle of the world? What are you talking about?

I imagine this thread will be closed sometime soon.

[Ouch!]

I don't get it.

EDIT: Wait, is that supposed to be some obscure reference to the obscure reference in your signature?

[Future Esthar]

Hey,during Eden ´s presentation we see a planet and then a triangle on the middle.This triangle is what shot the beam.The triangle rotates along with a clock escale of numbers on Latin (Roman Numbers).

[Ouch!]

Right, well you should have said that.

For the record, I still don't get it.

[Flashback007]

I think what he is trying to say is that Eden is somehow connected with the future world were Ultimecia lives.

I am thinking, going out from the Garden summon thing, that the connection maybe could be, that Eden (reincarnation of the Gardens?) also has the power to travell back in time. Maybe he already wanted to warn Squall and his company about Ultimicia plan, but caught up in Ultima Weapon. That would explain why you could also draw Eden from Tiamat (or how ever you write it). Eden also lives in the future world but is used as an GF by Ultimecia and her crew. Somehow he managed to escape to the past. There he landed on the Deep Sea Research Centre and was absorbed by Ultima Weapon. That could bring an interesting theory about the Research Centre. Cause if Eden wouldn't be the GF of Ultima Weapon would the Research Centre be detroyed? Or was it maybe Bahamut who destroyed the Research Centre and confronted Eden. Can you imagine a battle between does two titans?

For the clock maybe it's a memorie of Eden from the future.

[Xzirox]

I think it reminds a LITTLE bit of the last boss in FFIV :s

[Future Esthar]

Or,Ultimecia lives on the past and suddenly the world was flooded and Ultimecia´s castles was caught on it.Then Ulti´s tower was found by the Deep Sea Research Center.Interestingly enough someone said on a forum that Bahamut IS Tiamat.And maybe the Weapons´s are also the same? If you compare their positions relative to the site with their positions relative to the tower you will see that their positions are near the same.
For exemple,Tiamat was near the top of the tower and Bahamut was on the top of the mobile Island.
Also ,Omega Weapon was near the bottom of the tower and Ultima Weapon was near the bottom of the ladder on the site.
By the way,could Eden be the messenger sleeping on the garden?

[BG-57]

No reason that Omega Weapon and Tiamat can't be future forms of Ultima Weapon and Bahamut. What keeps me up nights is trying to work out how Ultima Weapon got Cloud's sword. I guess if Cloud can travel dimensions from FFVII to FFT, his sword can go on trips as well.

I would imagine that if any GF is the messenger, it would be Diablos, since he used the 'Dark Messenger' attack. If Eden is the Garden, then Diablos sleeps in Eden. Perhaps like the devil that tempted Eve in the form of a serpent?

Or am I going too far here?

P.S. Don't be surprised if this thread gets closed, it's about a year old.

[Future Esthar]

Basicaly Eden was telling you how Time compression was made (TC mapping)

[Ireng]

Eden, from my point of view, is simply an ethereal, spiritual entity of an unknown realm. It's some form of supreme being humilliated to aid humans as they need it. Like Alucard. He could simply be the ultimate being, some sort of God from which the Gardens are designed (like the Eva units).
I believe they made it like this to make us develop stupid theories like this one and keep on buying their products, trapped in their capitalistic labyrinth.

[Zante]

I think Eden is some creature(shown on the avatar) inside of some kind of infernal machine. In the beginning of the summon, it looks like a futuristic comand centre. I'm not sure about this, but wasn't nou-mou's totema in FFTA something similar to eden?

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Future Esthar, sir, this thread was well over a year before you decided to bring it back. And, to add insult to injury, you brought it back for another of your crackpot conspiracy theories.

I'm not sure about this, but wasn't nou-mou's totema in FFTA something similar to eden?

Ultima doesn't resemble Eden at all, really. See for yourself.

Anyway, thread over.