Opinions on Seifer(Spoilers)

[MJN SEIFER]

The Seifer is actually my favorite character in this game and I thought of staring a litle thing up I am talking about the Basic plot of Seifer's character and I want to hear your opinions (I may put it on my WIP website!) it's basicaly a run down of how the Seifer changes threw the game!


Seifer at the start

ok he's got a bad side but he's not THAT bad!! he's kid of a...."bully" i'd say but he has afew good intentions (Becoming a Seed may actualy be a good thing!)

Seifer later
Once you get to Timber Seifer crashes the party and really loses it he still isn't an ofical Vilain yet he just wants to be recordnized as strong person he then see's Edea(?) an seems to be drawn and then Vanishes giving the impresion he died...

Seifer the Knight

We discover that Seifer lied about his death and has joind forces with the enemy! but can we considder him a bad guy? well half and half he maybe be doing the wrong thing but he's still a boy lost in a dream world....

Seifer the Bad guy

The team have learnd the truth about Edea and Seifer suspected it all along! he has beome a bad guy and willing to kill anyone who bars his path in becoming a true knight b theres a hint of goodness in him still but fading fast!

Seifer final battle
he is fully bad now totaly evil he "Has lost him self and his dream" as fujin points out (Did anyone find it weird that fujin actualy talked proper english here?) he ignores Fujin and Rajin who were his only true freinds when they tell him that being a sorceres knight is NOT the answer he also has the power to destroy GFs! (well...) but intrestingly enough when he attacks Rinoa at the end she tells him "You're not like that!" maybe Seifer was actualy controlled! what are you're opinions?

[Leigha]

i feel that seifer WAS indeed just a big bully throughout the game, his intentions were pure, but then ultemecia kinda... well... changed that, she hexed him into it... and with your Seifer the Knight thing, it's pretty much true... but... he never told anyone he died, our good friends squall and co. just ASSUMED that they knocked him off, when really, ultemecia/edea had him hexed and was training him to be her little lap doggie. ^_^ those are just my observations.. but... good thread!!!

[Raiden]

Seifer wasn't evil, just self-confident and kinda arrogant. Edea controlled him easily because he had a weak mind, he was hungry of power and the sorceress just used him as a puppet.

[SirenGriever]

I dunno, I kinda thought he was just as misunderstood as Seymour was in FFX. Although, I'd have to agree that Seifer was a pretty coo character even though he was kinda a bully from the beginning!

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[Psychotic]

In my opinion, Seifer was the best thing in FFVIII, and is probably one of the best Final Fantasy characters of all time.

But Seifer is no bad guy. The sorceress manipulated him using his childhood fantasy, which confused him and blinded him from the truth. He was no villain, he was a victim.

[Savannah]

The only thing that separates Seifer from Squall is Seifer's inability to listen to orders, and his complete confidence in himself and no one else. Where Squall lacks self-esteem, Seifer has it in abundance, and where Seifer lacks obedience, Squall has THAT in abundance. They're both very emotionally scarred because of abandonment issues that started with their childhood, but they reacted to it in different ways- both of them decided that the only person they could depend on in life was himself, and while Squall detached himself from everyone by building emotional walls, Seifer fought off anyone who got too close and lost himself in his own fantasy. He was actually the only FFVIII character that I really liked, and I wish there had been more of him.

[Fuzakeru]

Seifer's story was much more intriquing than Squall's in my opinion.

Seifer rules! ^_^-

[Big D]

[q=Savannah]The only thing that separates Seifer from Squall is Seifer's inability to listen to orders, and his complete confidence in himself and no one else.[/q]The differences were greater than that, in my opinion. Seifer disobeyed orders because of his naturally violent personality. Like the Dollet mission, for example. He chose to abandon his post - putting the entire city at risk - just because he was looking for a fight, an opportunity to kill.

[TakaX2]

I kinda agree that Seifer was minipulated. Personally, I think Seifer was the hottest guy in the game, but he's not my favorite character. The whole evil, always getting in your way, never just dies, really annoying thing really made my points for him go down. I mean, he gets annoying cause you have to beat him like 3 times each time you fight him. I think he could have been my favorite character if he could have broken free after the first or second fight and became part of your team. I know he's one of the main 'bad guys' in the game, but that would have been sweet.

[Imperia]

To me, Seifer is a big brat... He's a bully and he's so cruel to Squall. How could that ding-bat Rinoa fall for a guy like that? She's such a weakling...
Anyway, those are my opinions on him. He should've died.

[ivory]

my darling seifer.....a ding-bat?!? no way! seifer was just an mouse caught in a scheme (although he had no idea).

I totally agree with Psychotic. edea (when she was a sorceress) convinced seifer by using his childhood dream....that's all. he was being controlled, i think....but seifer is definitly a good guy but since he became a bad guy, he was kicked out of garden and everyone's perspective of him changed. good boy gone bad...oh so bad. sure seifer did something terribly bad but since it wasn't his fault, he shouldn't have to die for it. being kicked out of garden was a good enough punishment for him. but by this....how is the whole "quifer" relationship gonna happen?

[MJN SEIFER]

Who is Quiffer?

[MagicKnight Locke]

Originally posted by:Ivory
sure seifer did something terribly bad but since it wasn't his fault, he shouldn't have to die for it.

(SPOILER)he didnt die he appeared in the final video fishing

[Imperia]

Originally posted by ivory
my darling seifer.....a ding-bat?!? no way! seifer was just an mouse caught in a scheme (although he had no idea).

Um... I was calling RINOA a ding-bat, NOT Seifer. I just called him a bully and a brat.

[ivory]

Oh..........
my bad:o

and by the way, Quiffer isn't a person....it's a couple. guess who?