Do people even remember Rikku's intro FMV? What do you think they were aiming for there?
Yuna looks as different as possible to her original character. Not slutty IMO, skimpy. This makes perfect sense plot-wise.
Do people even remember Rikku's intro FMV? What do you think they were aiming for there?
Yuna looks as different as possible to her original character. Not slutty IMO, skimpy. This makes perfect sense plot-wise.
I say what I think. If you disagree, then that is up to you.
I've yet to see how someone's hairstyle can be slutty, Kindo. Did she shave the word 'slut' into the back under that bandana or something?
Most good points about the changing of the clothes have already been made. But let's think about this. Yuna is a combat girl now, she doesn't stand back and let giant beast fight for her. She's in the action blazing guns among other things. Let's imagine her jumping around shooting her pistols in her kimono. I dont think so. Also note outfits such as mages ARE NOT revealing because they dont require you to use actual hand to hand combat as much. The only "skimpy" outfits are those which require you to be swift and quick. PLUS, she isn't a summoner anymore! Do women walking around dressed like a nun even though they aren't?! Why would she still be wearing her holy garments?
**insert catchy sig**
Yeah super. Could you please answer my question about how Rikku's hair is slutty?Originally posted by Kindo
Maybe we should have a big group hug instead. This debate is... scary.
Re: What's wrong with the human body? Square and 'sluttiness'
HUGE FFX SPOILER...
Originally posted by Rand Al'Tor
You know, I've never actually played FFX-2. I haven't finished FFX either, so I won't be doing that for a lil' while yet. Stlll, now and then I've heard reviews of the game here.
The usual verdict: bad?
The usual reason: Rikku and Yuna are dressed like sluts, whores, etc, etc...
Okay... of all the reasons a game may be bad, that seems like a pretty bad one. In fact, IF at least it meshes with the characters (it could signify a change in Yuna's attitude, as I could see the X-1 Yuna wouldn't go dressed in a risque manner, mind you NOT to tell me anything about it) I would say it's a pro... A small one, and DEFINATELY NOT enough to make a good game, but a pro nonetheless.
WHAT?
You heard me... a pro.
Let's be... totally honest with ourselves here. Most of the people here are, if not adult, at least of that age where there is an interest in the opposite sex (or the same sex, orboth) in a more 'physical' way. We enjoy looking at people, and I don't know about the other people, but straight males generally can approve of women that are dressed; for lack of better word, sexy, which involved tight clothing and sparse clothing. I don't know how it is for gay males and females of all sexual prefernces, but I suspect they too LIKE to look at good looking characters, dressed in ways to stimulate the libidos.
Square panders to this. And I ask you. What is wrong with that?
FFX-2 is made for perverts
It's three chicks going around changing cloths every battle they enter. All males leave your party, instead of any of them being replaced, a chick in full leather joins your party. Ok, if the love of your life died, and I'm talking about THE love of your life would you be more inclined to wear LESS cloths like Yuna did? No. I don't understand why any one who was a true fan of the original FFX would be so willing to accept that they did that. You're talking about buying the game because it's easy on the eyes? Why don't you go out and by a porno?
Last edited by ZeZipster; 09-30-2003 at 01:37 AM.
Hahaha, I was wondering when ZeZipster would make an entrance into this thread. I'll ignore the blatantly made up comments and just point out that the game is set two years after X and Yuna may just have had time to recover. I'd also point out that you quoted someone asking you not to drop massive X spoilers before you did so.
I say what I think. If you disagree, then that is up to you.
So your blatantly ignoring the fact that all male characters conveniently leave for a female lead to come in? Ignorance is bliss, right? Why should you care that the game your playing is a disgrace to the original and made for perverts?Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
Hahaha, I was wondering when ZeZipster would make an entrance into this thread. I'll ignore the blatantly made up comments and just point out that the game is set two years after X and Yuna may just have had time to recover. I'd also point out that you quoted someone asking you not to drop massive X spoilers before you did so
I think you just need to get over it ZeZipster. You obviously don't like the way the series is heading.
Square has any right to create a game like FFX-2, and obviously it isn't going to attract everyone, even some hardcore FF'ers. But that doesn't mean they can't try new things.
Is there something wrong with having a female as a lead role in a video game? It sounds to me that, that's what you're saying. Don't judge a book by it's cover, you haven't played this game yet and you're already judging it? Now that is pure ignorance.
I'm not saying this is going to be the best FF game ever, but I'm willing to give it a try without 'dissin' it with harsh comments like "it's too slutty". Either way, you can't change how they have made the game, and you can't change the fact that they are selling it. So move onto another RPG series, because you really don't like the 'new age' FF games.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
I'm a little slow today... What's the problem with a girl leading the group?
I've seen the future, brother. It is murder.
Woops, forget that statement I made... I don't think I was quite with it when I replied to this thread, meaning I miss read alot of things. Anyways, don't worry.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Re: Re: What's wrong with the human body? Square and 'sluttiness'
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ZeZipster
HUGE FFX SPOILER...
Hhe...no...I've seen and enjoyed stuff made for perverts, and FF is NOT one of them. I wouldn't advise FF to anyone to get erotically stimulated. A bit of a tease now and then? Sure, both in the old as in the new. But 'for perverts'? Hardly.FFX-2 is made for perverts
Twitch... well, you DID mention spoilers. Anyway, no problem with a mostly female party is there?It's three chicks going around changing cloths every battle they enter. All males leave your party, instead of any of them being replaced, a chick in full leather joins your party.
Because a TRUE fan appreciates the plot, music and character, regardless what clothes they are wearing at the moment? And people above have given reasons why Yuna would 'downdress'Ok, if the love of your life died, and I'm talking about THE love of your life would you be more inclined to wear LESS cloths like Yuna did? No. I don't understand why any one who was a true fan of the original FFX would be so willing to accept that they did that.
Not uniquely because it's easy on the eyes. Mostly because I hope for good plot, music and characters. But eye-candy DOES help, and it would be Victorian to demand a game to purposefully NOT appeal to a certain liking. "If yu want good music, buy a CD" makes about as much sense as what you say now.You're talking about buying the game because it's easy on the eyes? Why don't you go out and by a porno?
Besides, the plot in most porn is utter crap. And I have found that the attractiveness of women increases if they have interesting stories and characters. Just because Final Fantasy is mainly for good plot/characters/music does NOT mean they are not allowed to address our, to be blunt, lusts. Just because while porn is mainly addressed at lust, doesn't mean it's not allowed to introduce plot beyond 'girl doesn't have enough money for pizza'
The storm was coming? Light, he WAS the storm
-Rand Al'Thor.Path of Daggers. Robert Jordan
I'm being misunderstood. I'm not against a female-lead I'm against a slutty female lead.Originally posted by Outsider
I'm a little slow today... What's the problem with a girl leading the group?
Mojo Pin just pretend that I responded to your reply because most of it was just complaining about me complaining about and that just starts new threads over, over, and over again, read the before stated to get a response to "Is there something wrong with having a female as a lead role in a video game? It sounds to me that, that's what you're saying. Don't judge a book by it's cover, you haven't played this game yet and you're already judging it? Now that is pure ignorance."
I detest the game because it is not to the original standards which Square created, Square NEVER created a sequel and when they did, they crapped out this? Huge disappointment you can only have 2 of the original cast members in your party and they dress in the most stupidest cloths I have ever seen. People say that Yuna dresses like that because of Rikku and I'm thinking who would be stupid enough to take fashion advice from a chick in a scarf and bikini? You also have to remember that through out FFX they never changed cloths once and didn't have a dress-up system. They made this game purely to attract perverts and I won't support that, because I have respect for the original game and I DON'T want them doing this to their other games. This game doesn't resemble a sequel in my opinion it has very few things in common with the original and doesn't even seem to match genres.Not uniquely because it's easy on the eyes. Mostly because I hope for good plot, music and characters. But eye-candy DOES help, and it would be Victorian to demand a game to purposefully NOT appeal to a certain liking. "If yu want good music, buy a CD" makes about as much sense as what you say now.
It really bugs me how people use the word "slutty" and "sluts" when describing the new-look Yuna and Rikku. Firstly, what is a slut? Well to me it would be somebody who sleeps around a lot, doesnt really care about anyone, doesnt really care about or respect herself.... it's not defined by clothes, as many people have brought up already in this thread.
And whoever made the comment about Christina Aguilera, she isn't a slut anyway she is a talented singer she looks great and makes the most of it.
Rand Al'tor and TheAbominatrix made a lot of good points so I won't repeat them. But to judge people by their clothes is narrowminded, and the stupid thing is that the majority of people who repeatedly slag off the game haven't even played it yet, and have no real reason to slag it off except they have seen a bit of flesh and that automatically makes the game bad. Riiiiight...
I found this comment of Rand Al'tor's particularly good:
"Because a TRUE fan appreciates the plot, music and character, regardless what clothes they are wearing at the moment? "
I think we all agree that plot, music and character are the most important part of the game, after all in the old FF's you could hardly tell what they are wearing, but you didn't care did you? It didn't matter. Now all of a sudden it matters. People are forgetting what else is important and judging by first appearances.
I'm just human, I found Squall completely gorgeous but that wouldnt have made me buy the game, I fancied the pants off Tidus but that's also not the reason why i played FFX. I find people attractive, male or female, I think Yuna and Rikku look great and I certainly wouldn't complain about looking at them in the game, but at the same time that's not why I'm going to buy FFX-2!
I'm going to buy it because I enjoy Final Fantasy and most of all I loved FFX and since it is a sequel it makes sense for me to want to play it. The clothes don't make or change my opinion but I don't have a problem with them.
Maybe more people would have complained about FFVII if the whole game had brilliant graphics showing off Tifa in all her glory.
Anyway I don't mind people saying that FFX-2 is crap if they have good reasons, but Yuna and Rikku's clothes is NOT a good reason it never has been and never will be.
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