What's wrong with the human body? Square and 'sluttiness'

[Garland]

This shows how shallow your worldview is. Don't think sex every time you see a female. Man, I'd hate to be a female in this world. Everytime I would dress comfortably, most guys would be thinking sex. Pitiful. - i90east

If you think there is nothing wrong with that then you obvisoully aren't a fan of Final Fantasy. - ZeZipster

Let's attack my argument, not me, please. It was just my oppinion.

EDIT: Got sidetracked and forgot to add my point. Square is in the business of making money. They'll make any game that'll sell. FF7 was a huge departure from FF1-6 because flashy graphics would sell more. FF10 was a huge departure from 7-9 as an experiment to see if various new ideas would sell more. I assume several of them did so (voice acting for one, and a loss of the world map). It's different, but Square found that it made money, so they kept it. Drawing in an even larger audience by making the already sexy females fans have grown accustomed to in prior games the focus of the advertising (it doesn't seem to be the focus of the actual plot) is just smart marketing. The target audience of Final Fantasies in general is the type that would be most interested in such risque character design. As long as the game plays well, I think Square can market the game however it likes. If FF7 were advertised through a bunch of Tifa chest and leg shots, with various quotes taken out of context, it wouldn't have tarnished my impression of the game. I think the same of FFX2.

Square is a business first and foremost. Whether or not FFX2 is unacceptable is a debate held only by the most hardcore fans. The majority of videogame players are attracted to this sort of 'fan service'. That's why it's so popular. Tomb Raider didn't become one of the best selling games because of its gameplay. Square makes a good effort to provide great gameplay and a compelling plot. I don't think there's anything wrong with Square trying to expand its market in the same way most other companies did. It never proclaimed itself of higher moral caliber - the small circle of fans that are at arms over the issue did. They want money. People will buy this game. Maybe not the three or four people that are the backbone of the anti X2 argument here, but thousands of people - perhaps some that would've disregareded the FF name beforehand.

[Outsider]

I still don't understand one thing... Why the hell is this so important? If you think it's slutty, and you don't like it, then don't buy it... You can't change it, so the best you can do is hope that Square loses a good amount of money, so they can get back on track.
I'm pretty sure it will sell enough to make the next FFs get even worse though, but at the very least I still have my good old stuff to play.

But if you are questining each others opinion, then it's a massive waste of time. I think that none of you people have such a weak mind to change your opinion in a single discussion. And you are all saying the same stuff to prove opposite points...

[PhoenixAsh]

ZeZipster:

FFX

Had 4 male characters, that's 4/7 more than half.
Yuna wears not so exposing cloths.
Yuna uses summoning system.
Through-out entire game, no one changed cloths once.
Game did not have an active battle system.
Had 1 ending.
No missions.

Now, let's look at FFX-2

Has 0 male characters, that's 0/3 - 100% all female party.
Introduces new character, who is female.
Yuna uses guns.
Yuna steals Lara Crofts out-fit and puts Jechts symbol on it
Every time they enter a battle they change cloths.
Has an active battle system
Has multiple endings
Missions.

1) Tidus and Auron couldn't have been in the party for obvious reasons. Wakka's absence is also explained. Khimari I don't know about but he hardly counts as male eye-candy.

2) Yuna's clothing style is changed for A LOT of reasons. If she dressed as she did in X it would have made no sense whatsoever.

3) How in the Hell was she gonna use the summoning system again? She is half Al Bhed with limited physical strength, she would naturally use machina.

4) Clothing changes are a fairly logical step as technology advances, most people change clothes occasionally in real life. I haven't played it but it sounds like FFV did the same thing anyway.

5) I haven't got a clue how the gameplay changes are relevant.


i90east:
Is your only problem with X-2 the marketing? If so then it's a fairly bad thing to judge on. Most people who'll buy X-2 will buy it because they played X. ATTRACTive pictures simply ATTRACT attention, which is the whole point, they don't need to do much else because they couldn't fit all the new info onto a picture.


Given I left the arguement a while ago, I'll just say I agree with pretty much everything Deathjester said to jump back in.

[Buffy]

Sorry i dont like it....I hate it...it shows to much...She looks so..Yuk...She used to be beautyful

[Del Murder]

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