Observe Please.Originally Posted by Big D
Now we see that Seifer doesn't even say his name and therefore raises some question whether Seifer even knows of Odin.
Observe Please.
Now we see that Seifer doesn't even say his name and therefore raises some question whether Seifer even knows of Odin.
Last edited by celtcknight; 04-30-2004 at 08:43 AM.
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The point about Seifer knowing something of Odin's prowess remains.
It proves that any more ideas whether seifer knows anything of Odin or not will now be relied only on "what ifs" and hypothesis wit no support from the game. Seifer never says his name nor gives any proof that he knows of him, only that this GF that squall summoned was weak to him.
Last edited by celtcknight; 05-01-2004 at 04:10 AM.
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D I don't think Rinoa created Griever after losing her memory. More likely after Squall's death, or (more abstractly) from Squall in some way.
The foreshadowing and Squall being Rinoa's knight just make it seem odd that Ultimecia's "knight" just happens to be representative of Squall.
I say what I think. If you disagree, then that is up to you.
You mean like the R=U theory?
R=U has more remnants or hints throughout the game than the one small fact or not whether Seifer knows of Odins existence. It was all in 10 second clip that gave birth to the what ifs.You mean like the R=U theory?
Squall mentions (or makes up) a name for a ring with a lion on it privately to Rinoa. Rinoa is a sorceress. Rinoa and squall are a couple. Name of ring is given to a lion GF in the future. Ultimecia is corrupt because she has no knight. Ultimecia wants to compress time...for some reason unknown. Those are facts in the game that can support R=U versus the no facts that Seifer knows Odin.
L+R=S wasn't literally proven. But it was obvious. R=U has a better relation with L+R=S than Seifer knowing Odin.
Last edited by celtcknight; 05-03-2004 at 12:43 AM.
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Lighten up, bro, it was a joke. I don't know why anyone takes anything I say seriously, just look at my sig fer crissakes.
I'm cool,
its hard to tell sometimes. You know you cant interpret sarcasm or tone with smiley and typing all that well (just like the game). Im not trying to be a hard ass here.
If you read way up there, someone got me somewhat frustrated over that issue. I'm sure there are things you know most about and theres someone out to just prove you wrong and not just accept that they were wrong in the first place.
School Sucks, Go Work.
I just wanted to make a commentary on the wings.
I think they're just symbols of great power. Rinoa's are white because she represents purity and things that are right in the world. Ultimecia's are black because she represents the opposite. I think the only connection there is the fact that they both have the ability to weild formidable magic.
Signature by rubah. I think.
I agree with you there fire
Also, the powers that Rinoa wields include the powers that Edea got from Ultimecia. They'll go full circle - sometime before Rinoa dies, she'll pass on her abilities to someone else, and so on down through the generations, till eventually Ultimecia inherits them. This is what is stated in the game, that the future sorceress is "many generations ahead of our time" where "none of us can...exist".
R=U is totally dependent on the idea - never even hinted at in the game - that sorceresses can overcome the age-barrier. The only evidence for this is the fact that Edea still looks pretty at the end; however, this is an FF - everyone looks pretty even if they've just been through war and hell, shot, stabbed and frazzled with magic. Nothing ever messes up their hair and skin, including age. See Cid's shiny locks in the ending FMV if you desire proof
I dont think the R=U theory is correct.....so are you saying Big D that buy the quote that the future sorceress is "many generations ahead of our time" where "none of us can...exist". So saying that doesn't that kinda confirm that the R=U theory is not correct? Because Rinoa cannot exsist in Ultimecias time either?
And if R=U is correct (which its not) wouldn't they have made it completly obvious in the game? That would have been the main point of the game..but its not...the main point is to kill Ultimecia and if Rinoa was Ultimecia...then they would be killing her future self and if you kill your future you can not technically exsist in the first place.
Killing your future self effects nothing. We all die in the future, but we still exist in the present, and in the past. It's only if Ultimecia killed Rinoa (and was Rinoa, of course) that it would cause a paradox. If you go into the past to kill yourself, then you died in the past... then how did you live in the future to go back and kill yourself?
If Rinoa was Ultimecia, Rinoa killing Ultimecia would do nothing weird.
IF Rinoa was Ultimecia :P But she isn't.
I never said she was. All I said was the way you debunked it was incorrect.
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