FFIX: the better hero

[MagicKnight Locke]

Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
If you were 'just like Squall' why would you talk to anyone? Squall was a loner and only talked to people when he had to, as a patron of a message board you obviously want to talk to people. Squall is a game character, you would naturally have more personality than him, being real and all.

ive never been friendly.If youd see me outside a message board u'd title me worse than squall

[Big D]

Originally posted by Kurohime
Zidane? Violent? o_O That's... a first, actually. I just think he has a punk mouth, but I hardly thought of him as violent. Paritally because the atmosphere of the game itself is light-hearted and fluffy, I don't think of any of the characters as particularly violent.

Well, he's a thief, an armed one at that. When you're robbing innocent strangers, you don't carry a razor-sharp dagger just in case you're busting for a shave. He's a member of Tantalus, a group that's run on violence - go against Baku's orders, you get thrashed. Want to leave, and he comes after you with a sword.
(SPOILER)Remember when Marcus was going to steal the Supersoft? Dr Tot interrupted, and Marcus offered to "take care of him" to make sure that he didn't get caught. Marcus carries a three-foot sword. "Take care of him" = cut his throat and leave him to die. He would've murdered the good doctor if Garnet and Steiner hadn't intervened. Same goes for Zidane's first encounter with Amarant - "I'll knock you out in one minute flat!" or whatever. Zidane knew he was violent enough to incapacitate (wound, knock out or kill) this bigger man in a short time. Whatever way you look at it, Zidane and Tantalus are a brutal bunch. It's probably a good thing that FFIX's atmosphere was so bright and upbeat. If it was as gritty as FFVII, then Tantalus' darker side would've been much more plain to see, and I doubt Zidane would've been such an appealing hero then.

[Heath]

Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
I thought Vivi was very cute, but I didnt find him overly funny, really.

I felt more sympathy for Vivi than anything.
And as for Zidane, I agree pretty much with Big D's last post.

[Phil]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MagicKnight Locke
ive never been friendly.If youd see me outside a message board u'd title me worse than squall [/QUOTE

Dude... your 11 years old. Your not like squall. You could never BE like squall. But seriously. Zidane was in truth a violent man. He would have showed his evil side but he was never pushed far enough to actually do it. There is however the part in ]Pandemonia, where he gets angry and blows everybody off. He wasn't being trul EVIL, but he was showing somewhat of a darker side than he had before. He would have beaten his comrades up had he been slightly provoked.. I'm sure before the actual game ensues, he'd had some more violent adventures.

[Flare_Star]

whats with all the zidane haters? i think he is the best char ever! Hes not brutal at all. He just cares for his friends. Take this line for example:
(im not sure if its totally right)

Man:Let's put him(Vivi)in with the rest of them.
(they bring vivi outside the hut and give him a shove)

Zidane: That b******!
(dagger brings zidane out of the area)

Dagger: Those barrels, ive seen the exact same ones at the castle. I dont want you to make trouble, just yet.

Zidane: Ok, but if vivis in danger, i will make trouble.

there.

p.s. everything kuro said.

[Cz]

Zidane wasn't a great lead, but he wasn't a bad one, either. At least he made a change from the dark, mysterious leads from FFVII and VIII. Although I'm not that fond of him, and he's pretty poor in combat, it could have been a whole lot worse.

FFVI has the best main character, regardless of who you think it is. VI had a great lineup.

[MagicKnight Locke]

OOC:

Originally posted by Vincent06 Originally posted by MagicKnight Locke ive never been friendly.If youd see me outside a message board u'd title me worse than squall Dude... your 11 years old. Your not like squall. You could never BE like squall. I consider your entire part about me a great stupid pile of discrimination,flaming and insults.And DONT give me that "uuh you little itty baby,you know nothing" routine. You think all who is less than 13 is a know-nothing baby huh? If you think all who is less than 13 are personalityless babies then i consider you the big baby here. What do you know about me,huh?First think before you say anything.You've never met me and you couldnt possibly know if i was like squall. I wouldnt make such a big thing about it but i consider you saying that i cant be like squall because i am 12(not 11 btw)a big discrimination Edit:I just noticed that you are just 2 years older than me.What does that make you?Grandfather of all the living?

As for stuff on topic i think zidane isn't violant.I think he was too quiet instead.A little bit of cloud and squall routine couldn't have hurt

[Phil]

Originally posted by MagicKnight Locke

OOC:

I consider your entire part about me a great stupid pile of discrimination,flaming and insults.And DONT give me that "uuh you little itty baby,you know nothing" routine. You think all who is less than 13 is a know-nothing baby huh? If you think all who is less than 13 are personalityless babies then i consider you the big baby here. What do you know about me,huh?First think before you say anything.You've never met me and you couldnt possibly know if i was like squall. I wouldnt make such a big thing about it but i consider you saying that i cant be like squall because i am 12(not 11 btw)a big discrimination Edit:I just noticed that you are just 2 years older than me.What does that make you?Grandfather of all the living?

I never said your a baby. I'm just saying that if a kid your age went around with a punk attitued like Squall he'd get his face beaten in. And yes, I'm 2 years older than you. That makes me twice as big, twice as strong, and about twice as smart, because I'm in high school. I'm not calling you dumb. I'm just saying that I'm 14 soon to be 15, and at that age you undergo a big growth spert in my instnace. And I know your not like squall. IF you were, you'd get killed, like previously mentioned. Oh and by calling me a baby, you kinda prooved your own immaturity. I'm not out to flame you or call you stupid. Just point out that a 12 year old and squall could never be anything alike.

Back on topic. Cloud and squall attitues in Ziddy would have killed the plot. He was a loudmouth kid with a good heart. Squall and Cloud were p.o.ed kids with okay hearts and strong senses of justice, like zidane.

[Big D]

No more critiques of each others' personalities, please. I'm twenty years old, at university, and I still have a heck of a lot to learn about myself and other people. When I was younger, I too had some things in common with Squall. Nothing wrong with thinking you've got a few traits similar to those of a fictional character.

[zacks_clone]

Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
I still find Zidane to be better than Squall, because at least he had a real personality. Squall was like a pretty cardboard cutout walking around. He was somewhat cool at first, but then he just up and changed who he was, which was silly.

Squall is alot like me.And i suppose im a cardboard cut out?

I personaly didnt like zidane.He was a good maine character for THIS game.Because of its setting and storyline.Squall was best for his game and Cloud for his.These are totaly diffrent games.you cant compair oranges to apples

[Rude]

Steering back on topic.

Zidane was a fine lead character. Just like any main character he had his flaws. Big deal, he is only human (or monkey, or Terran, or whatever). I personally found him humorous in his interactions with other characters and I thought it was nice to have a Thief class character be the lead role in a game, which is pretty much against the grain.

And ohh yeah - Hello again everyone, it's been a while since I've posted

[TheAbominatrix]

Squall is alot like me.And i suppose im a cardboard cut out?

*sigh* Well for one, you're a real person, not a pixelated game character thought up by some guys in Japan, so that gives you a one up already, doesnt it? He's a video game character, for the love of beans. An underdeveloped video game character, and for the sake of the thread I wont even get into how silly this entire argument sounds. You're a lot like Squall, not exactly like Squall. I know much more about Squall than about you, because for one I can read up on Squall any day of the week on the net, and two I was in control of him in the game, right? Squall is a walking cardboard cut out, with no real motivations and no drive to be who he is. He changes during the game, drastic and annoying changes that I really didnt see coming, all motivated by a heartless girl (please, no "I'm just like Rinoa and I'm not heartless!") and all within the space of a few days. I think he's one of the worst FF characters ever, even for his game, but then again VIII was marked by bad character development. Then again I dont think VII was the pinnacle for FF acheivement, so obviously some people dont share my views. But they are mine, and it is my opinion, and if you think different then good for you.

[luke webster]

The best lead hero has got to be Zidane. He has that class double-sided sword thing, and he actually has a sense of humour! But the best anti-hero is Sephiroth. He actually wants to cause harm to the world for a reason (ultimate power). Ultimacea was just a total psycho and Kuja wanted to destroy the world for no reason. (P.S. Zell rules!)

[DocFrance]

Sephiroth isn't an anti-hero, he's an antagonist. An anti-hero is someone who does good things, but he doesn't do them in a good way (for example, bringing villains to justice by killing them).

[black orb]

>>> Zidane love dangerous stuff so he is the hero indeed..