Looks like this is going to be another skimpily dressed game

[Ouch!]

I'm very upset with the fact that you think I'm not looking at the controversial aspects about sexualizing video games, darkchrono. I believe that you're just looking for excuses to keep this arguement running. I udnerstand that there are negatives about having the main characters skimpily dressed, but I think you're failing to realize that you're going against the media.

You can't beat the media. You can't beat society. Both the media and society have accepted the sexualizing of movies, videogames, television shows, etc. It's just a part of everyday life that you're eventually going to have to come to terms with.

Sexuality in the media is what can make or break a product. Sex sells. If it's a bad thing that all the main characters are going to be wearing next to nothing, oh well, more power to the companies if they can sell a game because a bunch of teens can get off on it.

Yes, I agree, that's disgusting, and I'd rather buy a game for its plot rather than how its characters look. But great games do come skimpily dressed nowadays.

Unless you think you have a shot at changing how the media is and how it works, which you don't, I suggest you realize that this arguement is futile. You're just going to have to overlook the little things that bother you, just like everyone else does when they find a hitch in what would otherwise be the 'perfect game'.

[MecaKane]

Originally posted by darkchrono
What is funny though is that games where they try to emphasize the storyline and make the game as realistic as possible. Such as games like xenogears and xenosaga. All the characters are dressed completely normal.

Ok, in Xenogears the characters actually have sex, there are a few secences of them lying in bed all naked spriteness, naked in test tubes, naked before the last boss, naked after the last boss, in anime form.

And in Xenosaga most of the sexual stuff lies around a 12-year-old girl and her 'round the clock panty shots. And you can get a swimsuit for Shion to wear that shows up in the battle secenes.

Yes very tact INDEED.

[DMKA]

I don't recall any skimply dressed people in FF7...or 8...or 9...maybe I'm just not remembering...oh well.

I don't see why people are so concerned about this. They're CLOTHES! Sheesh. And hell, whats the big deal about nudity? As long as its not being displayed in an erotic manner (ie, a girl with hard nipples), whats the big offense? And that thing about "young kids" getting their hands on these games? Its just like movies, TV, and everything else - it the parents responsibility to control that and raise their child - not the media, or mine, or yours, or PS2, or the Backstreet Boys, or anyone else's. Plus video games even have RATINGS ON THEM! Is that not amazing? Ratings! And if you notice, ever FF game has a 13 and up rating on them (that I've seen anyway). Have you seen anything in an FF game you wouldn't let a 13 yr old see? If so I'm sure as hell glad I didn't have to grow up with you as a parent.

People are a little too uptight and concerned with clothing - on both real people and videogame characters. Skimply clothes usually look alot cooler IMO, and if your saving the world, constantly fighting, why the hell would you want to be dressed like a nun or a preist? Don't the skimpy clothes work to your advantage? Thats just my opinion i guess. I personally see nothing wrong with nudity. I'd even let children see nudity, as long as its not being displayed in an erotic manner. Nudity and pornography are two different things, even though one consist of an excessive amount of the other.

And as for FF characters, I think they're dress is highly conservative to alot of the the fighting games I've played.

And in closing, if you're bothered by the dress of videogame characters THIS much, jut cease to buy and play them. Its as simple as that. No one is making you buy and play them...theres a million other things you could be doing anyway. Otherwise, if your going to continue to purchase and play videogames, please don't sit up and bitch about what the characters are wearing in this manner. There are few things in this world more annoying than a hypocrite.

(if any of what I posted had already been mentioned I apologize but I didn't have time to go through and read the entire thread:riiight: )

[Ultros0]

you guys seem to forget... this is a japanese game... they don't give a f*** about you.

[Silent Warrior]

Aye, they're manga-infected, the whole lot of 'em. Still, I have to say that every FF I've played has seemed quite harmless. Well, in most cases, anyway. Lulu was a little... um... bare, and so was that Dona, but EXCEPT for Lulu (and Dona), I've seen worse out in the city. And FF isn't particularly big in my neck of the woods.
With all that said, I haven't played FFX-2... That one seems a bit less neutral than FF9. *cough* I haven't seen much of FF12 either, for that matter, but it doesn't seem worse than a day in town. Well, a SUMMER-day in town.

darkchrono: Like others, I feel videogames is the wrong place to start this kind of crusade. If you really have to, go after those who made that volleyball-game (now I'm almost embarrassed to know what it's called, hehe!) instead of FF. If you're desperate for games with fully-clothed characters, I'm happy to point you to Shining Force. Or Grim Fandango, for that matter. Nobody has any skin to show! (Except for the demons, ok, fine, sheesh.)
Oh, one thing about Xenosaga. I heard something that should be classed as a rumour about the MOMO-fixation. That little tidbit claimed it (the MOMO-fixation) was throwing a boot at all the other manga/anime-artists who SERIOUSLY sexualizes small girls. (If you ask me, Shion has a little more to, um, put on display.) I must have dredged it up through a Xenosaga chatzone somewhere. *Shrug*

TheAbominatrix: Well, strictly speaking, isn't a nun's outfit fairly easy to model? Anyway, I doubt Auron would have made sense wearing only a pair of tights (spandex?). Sure, the clothes doesn't make the character, but the character should make the clothes. A little bit.

Zaphier: Well... I kinda bought Planescape Torment because an ICQ-dude insisted that it was great. The nudest character there was (excluding the floating skull) the main character - a quite old, very scarred, gray male sprite. Hotness! (Yes, there were female characters, yes, there were prostitutes, but nothing was sexualized.)

[Silmaril]

would anyone really play a game where the characters are like homer simpson wearing thongs?

[Iceglow]

lol all Dark Chrono managed to give me was the mental image of some kid trying to have sex with their console.

Abdominatrix is right and if you really want sex promoted in games then please go play the first Grandia at one stage I do remember there being 3 naked female characters on screen at once if thats not trying to put sex in to the game I don't wanna ask what is.

However I kinda see it as not so much them trying to put sex in to the game as they're trying to modernise love in the games because every FF game has a love story a plot involving one of the main female characters and usually the lead male, Cloud - Aerith and later Cloud - Tifa, Squall - Rinoa, Selphie - Irvine, Zell - the random girl in garden who Zell goes out with (poorly done they could have developed another NPC out of her but ignore completely instead), Zidane - Garnet, Steiner - Beatrix, Tidus - Yuna, Lulu - Wakka... need I go on with the ones from the older games not just those in the PS series? To be honest everyone knows that in recent years it is a fine line between Desire/lust and love therefore it is easier to portray love by making the object of it to be Desireable or Lustrous to the eyes of the player.

[Aerio]

Lunar 2 Enternal Blue Complete has Lucia Skinny dipping and her walking on the blue star with tons of snow falling nekkid :P

[Daydrius]

how is being naked promoting sex?

nakedness is a naturaul state, underneath these clothes we are all naked...are we promoting sex?

when we are born, we are naked, are we promoting sex then?

When we take a shower, are we promoting sex...okay, some people might go all I'm sexy in the shower, but other that, are we promoting sex?

How could you look down on nakedness like a sex scam, it is a naturaul state.

In feudal Japan, people would be naked and not care who saw, people should be comfortable with this nakedness.

Although, it's not like we should walk down the streets naked, that would be stupid due to the fact that it's winter, and you will get arrested.

...yeah, that's about it

[Lamia]

Sexy female warriors of popular everywhere...
even in the power rangers movie..

[Aerio]

OMG! yer right! The villains in Power rangers are just as skimpy as the FF chars!

[dancer35]

I just registered on this site b/c this topic is making me really, really mad. Get over the freaking clothes! I thought Rikku's outfit in Final Fantasy X-2 was cute. Nothing about the Final Fantasy series is sexual. I'll admit I was like "WTF??!!!" when I saw Lulu for the first time, but I have never been offended by anything on those games. Have any of the characters just started randomly screwing? I don't think so. I'm only 14 and nothing on these games is offensive to me. If anything the series has made me want to love someone a lot before even just kissing them. Look at Tidus and Yuna's relationship in FFX! There was nothing sexual about it, it was pure love. And I don't think I've seen Rikku throwing herself all over some guy. The girls in Final Fantasy are role model to all girls everywhere. They strut their stuff without being slutty! They are not sex icons. I think Square-Enix has done a good job at keeping their games clean. The female characters don't wear any less than what you see at the beach so get over it.

[Aerio]

yer my best friend!

[White Mage Nico]

Well, I will just sy a few things about it, if I dont reply, dont be surprised, I dont get much time to get on.


Final fantasy is a famouse sereise (or however you spell it) in most ff they didnt seem to have skimply dressed chars, most ppl say its enix, but its not enix because when they made ffx it said square soft. now to continue... since ff is so famouse, alot of ppl will buy it, not just teens who are supposed to be allowed to see this stuff, but kids from 9-12, this isnt exactly a "bad" thing.. but it seems very inapropriot to me, (I dont have good spelling...ugh) also, plz stop posting on this, ppl have different opinions, if ur arguing, you cant convince the other person! they will be mad, they wont just go "oh ok" so plz stop posting here, its a meaningless post!

also, if you didnt understad my last post quite right... this will mean tht alot of parents will not allow their children to get these games, it will make square fail x.x also, aerio is pretty right! it wont actually harm you, if your a pervert, then it will kinda rot ur mind, but if your not a pervert, youll just wonder why they are wearing such clothes in such cold weather.

Edit: Please do not double post. Use the Edit/Delete button in the menu just below your post. - Murder

[The Man]

Originally posted by darkchrono
In fact in the interview they had with the developers they even mentioned how little clothing some of the characters seemed to be wearing.

Lol, think how revealing some of the characters for PS3 games will be if they are doing this kind of thing for PS2.

Lol, I know, instead of having all these half naked beach babes and boys in their games. They need to start having their characters looking like overweight heart attack waiting to happen lazy bumbs.

This thread makes me sad.