hmm yes those ones were related as are a few others but still alot of the ones in the golden square were just there and they were random distractions to a brilliant storyline whereas almost every minigame in 8 has revelance to the story even if it was just to explain them a little further and Triple triad was good fun and if you refined monster cards you got useful items especially when you needed low level spells later on in the game *come on give me the bloody bitebug cards all of them their mine All MINE!*