And master, if you dont think that its zeal thando this: Talk to Gasper just to verify that he says " someone close to you neds help..." then beat the black omen. You automaically fight the lavos shell. as soon as you go inside, theres a gate. go to the end of time and Gasper says something about finally she can rest, or finally shes free (its written pretty close above). Gasper WILL not say this until you beat the black omen...how much more proof can u need?
Ashy Larry-Marcy Projects-Marcy son WHAT!
MY GRAND........grand.......DAUGHTER?!alltough she sposet to be ayla's grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand daughter
"Ayla must win. Win and live.Lose and die.No changes rule."
Ayla is the best. If People say she's annoying,these people are no sense of change.
Why Ayla is my favorite?She's Very funnny and looks like me in the mental part (forget the poor english)
I'm funny friendly, strong... An human version of Ayla.
and tough,
i want something that will match the side quest title... mybe its something inside the ship?
zeal isnt no one friend and as i said, gaspar said that a "friend" needs help... i dont think that zeal is there friend (or its the story of "so what if we try to kill one each other in a painfull death, lets put are diffrecens aside and be good friends!")
and by the way, Ayla, congraduletion for your new grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand- doughter! send us an e-mail with her cute little face with the little purple hair, holding a sowrd or tring to bring lavos back to life will ya? and what about the joungle ceremony! ooga booga ooga booga dance like mountine pepoles!!!
Magus might consider his mom a friend.
the thing is gasper says that iven if you decided to kill magus...
SNES carts had very little space on them for dialogue. Most likely it took up too much space to set up a conditional as to whether or not Magus is dead or not and then to add two set of text, vs. one. American translators often talk about that in interviews, because youcan say more in less space in japanese with kanji, so they always have to fight to cram in what they can in the limited space. So what might be more than enough dialogue room in japanese is too little for english.
it's been a while since i played, but i think he says something more along the lines of "someone close to you needs help, find this person fast" or something in that direction i don't remember the word "friend" even being used there, and as others have said before me he only stops saying it after you defeat Queen Zeal in the Black Omen... i always thaught that "someone close" could refer to an ancestor or descendant, they don't have to be friendly to be close just have the same bloodline...
It's true, close doesn't mean friend. You HAVE come into contact with her before at that point, and she HAS had a rather big impact on the party.
one thing is did you not heard magus say to schala she isn't our momOriginally Posted by Flying Mullet
so magus is no familie of queen zeal
He means that the insane person Queen Zeal has become isnt really his mother. She's changed so much that she's become a different person. Magus is Queen Zeal's son, that's fact.
Considering that Queen Zeal had only two children and Janus was living in middle ages (so he's not Marle's ancestor), Schala would have to be Marle's grand-grand-...-grandmother, but she had no kids before the events in the Ocean Palace (when she disappeared).
That's why I don't think that Marle is really descendant of Queen Zeal. I think that she actually is descendant of some survivor from Zeal, one of those "Enlightened Ones" people....
I've seen the future, brother. It is murder.
The "Someone close to you" sidequest is the Black Omen sidequest.
The pendant isn't necessarily passed on - Doan doesn't have such a pendant, for example. Most likely it was acquired by some random person after the fall of Zeal, who started the Guardia line.
edit: It's generally accepted the Line of Guardia was started by the Elder of the Earthbound Ones.
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When does Lavos vaporize it? You vaporize it when you (SPOILER) Fight Zeal and defeat her, thus blowing up the omen
To clear up the discussion earlier, Gaspar (yes it is Gaspar) will mention all the sidequests regardless of who is in your party.
BTW, I don't think Lucca's mom is actually part of Fiona's Villa sidequest.
Gaspar is the one at the End of Time, yes. Balthasar is the one who built the Epoch, and Melchior is the one who lives outside the Monster Village. Or, if you prefer, Gaspar, Balthasar and Melchior are the three kings that are said to have presented the infant Jesus with gifts.
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