Conservatism on Campus?

[DocFrance]

Originally posted by Moose Knight
"A race as well as a faith?" Could you please explain. Nazis also thought that Jews were a race as well as a faith. They, and the Jesuits who organized the Spanish Inquisition, believed that a Christian who had a Jewish parent anywhere in his family tree was still Jewish, just for the same reason that you said - that "Jewish" is a race. They're saying that a Christian would be Jewish. Common sense can easily tell you otherwise.

"Jewish" is not a race. If "Jewish" was a race, then an asain person could not become Jewish. This is easily the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life.

This whole idealology is the exact same excuse for a large portion of my family being hideously put to death by the nazis during World War II.

Look, I'm not saying that because a person is of the Jewish race that he or she MUST be of the Jewish faith. I never said that.

Did you know that there exists a particular birth defect - I think it's Tay-Sachs, I could be wrong - which is found predominantly in members of the Jewish race? I highly doubt that it occurs because of what they believe in.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

The correct grouping for "Jews" is ethnicity. Ethnicity means relating to a person or to a large group of people who share a national, racial, linguistic, or religious heritage, whether or not they reside in their countries of origin. Race is strictly hereditary. You cannot pass on culture through genes and thus "Jewish" is ethnic because it is a combination of race and culture. Hitler made the little mistake of thinking it was strictly hereditary.


EDIT: Hence the term "ethnic cleansing." Bosnia being an example where two groups being racially identical but just couldn't iron out those other differences. Palestine/Israel and the Holocaust are probably the most extreme examples of "cleansing." In the US discrimination is mostly racial. Everybody is stereotyped into black, white, etc. The mainstream culture aspects of the US have degenerated in rampant shallow consumerism, namely 'pop culture.'

[Kahless]

So it's like being French then, right?

You can be born french or become french and once you're french your kids will be french too.

[DocFrance]

Originally posted by goyabean
The correct grouping for "Jews" is ethnicity. Ethnicity means relating to a person or to a large group of people who share a national, racial, linguistic, or religious heritage, whether or not they reside in their countries of origin. Race is strictly hereditary. You cannot pass on culture through genes and thus "Jewish" is ethnic because it is a combination of race and culture. Hitler made the little mistake of thinking it was strictly hereditary.

OK, I guess that does make sense. Although, the French analogy doesn't quite work, since French isn't a religion...

[Kirobaito]

I guess 'Arab' could go along the lines of that same category, though not exact. The overwhelming majority of "Arabs" are Muslim, but not all. And they are an "ethnicity."

[Moose Knight]

Originally posted by DocFrance
That's a pretty broad statement, isn't it? Do you know many extreme conservatives do you know that say that, or are you just saying that to try to make a point?

"un-American comments expressed by your liberal teachers."

and

"Let's take a stand against the liberal traitors who call themselves teachers,"

were both said by this guy. He's pretty much saying that only liberals can be traitors, or that only liberal traitors are the only traitors that should be dealt with. Either way he's stupid.

[DocFrance]

That's only one guy, but I do agree that he's pretty stupid.