FF8 Is Rubbish!

[Stupid Moomba 88]

I have decided that this is the worst FF ever, since it has rubbish characters who are boring. A stupid magic system and a especially stupid plot. Ultimecia appears on Disc Three all of a sudden. Oh really?

FFIX is far greater than the so-far-up-it's-own-bumhole FF8. square got really pompous and released some trash. It was a silly mistake. I'm glad FF9 rescues the world from this crap.

[Ice_andmice]

Final fantasy8 is my second favourite in the series
and it just breaks my heart to see someone come with such a bold statement

"rubbish characters"

Lol alot better than ff9 characters they where indeed rubbish and a big mistake.
The character creation in ff8 was fantastic in every way.
Squall,seifer and selphie where wonderful and it just shows that Square is number1 in this business


"stupid magic system "

Maby because u never got a good control of it..
It worked great for me i beated Omega Weapon very easily and i thank this system.

"Ultimecia appears on Disc Three all of a sudden"

What a hell do u mean?

"FF9 rescues the world from this crap"

ROFL i rest my case

[BG-57]

I doubt there will be much in the way of productive discussion here, but I am curious about something.

If you dislike FFVIII so much why are using Moombas in your name and avatar?

Or is your name a commentary on your feelings towards Moombas?

[Flying Mullet]

Originally posted by BG-57
If you dislike FFVIII so much why are using Moombas in your name and avatar?

Ha, I was going to ask the same question.

I'm in agreement that it is one of the worst Final Fantasies.

Originally posted by Ice_andmice
Lol alot better than ff9 characters they where indeed rubbish and a big mistake.
The character creation in ff8 was fantastic in every way.
Squall,seifer and selphie where wonderful and it just shows that Square is number1 in this business

The characters in FFVIII are 2 dementional, flat, predictable and boring. Squall is always apathetic, Rinoa always cheery and Seifer always disgruntled. It reminds me of a kids' mid-afternoon soap opera with really bad actors. There is no character development and if a character changes it's like a night-to-day change where you wonder, "How the hell (or why the hell) did that happen?".

Originally posted by Ice_andmice
Maby because u never got a good control of it..
It worked great for me i beated Omega Weapon very easily and i thank this system.

The customization aspect of the magic system is great, but I found drawing spells from places, things and enemies to get tedious. If you could refine more magic from items it would have been a little more fun.

So yeah, FFVIII isn't the worst, but I don't think it's the best. I could play through it again if I had to, but I would rather play through any of the other Final Fantasies first.

[Kirobaito]

My opinion exactly, Mullet. I think VIII is the second worst (even though I don't like using that term, as none of them are BAD), compared to X. The worst part was the magic system...too weird.

[Rand Al'Tor]

Eh, matter of personal taste. I find that Squall's character has its depths. He gets angry when people try to manipulate him, he is loyal to SeeD, to the point of making SeeD part fo his identity, he has some sort of grudging respect for Seifer, etc. etc. I guess you only see these things if you care for a character. When I see how much some poeple think of the FFVI characters, who mean pretty little to me (even if some of the backgrounds are quite well done)

I also like that FFVIII has characters with relatiely normal backgrounds. Characters with seriously f'd up origins can be nice, but I thought it was refreshing to see some characters who deal with some more down to earth problems like 'being unable to get close to others'

All in all, to use a time honoured cliche 'to each their own' Final Fantasy VIII is the favourite game of a good many people (including me) (and don't go all 'they just like the purty pictures on me') So you cannot sya that Final Fantasy VIII is a bad game. It's just a game YOU don't like.

[Cloudane]

Justifications?

This posts seems like a random unfounded dig / troll post, so it's pretty surprising to see it still open.

It's quite amusing that you raise the sudden appearance of Ultimecia as an issue, yet hold FFIX in higher regard straight after that point. Like Necron wasn't totally out of the blue and unexplained??

[American Badass]

Originally posted by Cloudane
It's quite amusing that you raise the sudden appearance of Ultimecia as an issue, yet hold FFIX in higher regard straight after that point. Like Necron wasn't totally out of the blue and unexplained??

There's nothing amusing about it. I'll never say that Ultimecia was a good villain, because I don't think she was. However, she was supposedly the main villain of FF8, being there technically throughout the entire game, but only coming into play in the third disk. Necron wasn't the main villain of FF9. He was the final boss. Kuja was the main villain of FFIX and appears a little bit more than a full disk earlier than Ultimecia.

[Advent Child]

I've seen enough of these stupid "I don't like this game" threads.

NOBODY CARES.

[darkchrono]

ff8 was just hard to get into. I had to force myself to get into it. If I didn't have such fond memories of ff7 and hopes that ff8 would turn into that I probably would not have kept on playing.

To put it simply. ff8 was living off of ff7's memory.

[Mo-Nercy]

FFVIII in my opinion, is the best game I've ever played and has been ever since I bought it. But since you hate it so openly, I am inclined to agree with you. [/sarcasm]

[Peegee]

I petition that we should ban all 'FFx game is sux' threads

[TheAbominatrix]

Originally posted by Advent Child
I've seen enough of these stupid "I don't like this game" threads.

NOBODY CARES.

THANK YOU <3 <3 <3

I petition that we should ban any 'this game sux' thread when the game has FIFTY THOUSAND OTHER THREADS SAYING THE EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

[Jack]

I petition that we should ban any 'this game sux' thread when the game has FIFTY THOUSAND OTHER THREADS SAYING THE EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Agreed, especially when the thread is unfounded. now if she'd actually just put effort in it, by balancing her opinion with a good arguement, I wouldn't have a problem with that, but this is a waste of space. Tell me Stupid Moomba, whats the f***ing point with putting FF8 sucks, when you clearly haven't thought about it and have just tried to start a arguement?
I did one of thse ages ago on FFIX, and I actually put effort in my answers, putting reasosn and comapring. I did actually have some points I liked. Seriously, you've just released some tripe. I'd like to see how you can expand on your original "FF8 suks" crap. Seriously, i'm waiting for a decent answer.

Since i might as well put my Two-peneth.....

FF8 is possibly the greatest RPG in the eintire world in my opinion. It actually had the balls to shatter some RPG staples, making it a revolution. Some people don't like change, some do. I embraced this one. Like all revoloutionary things, people will initially hate it. Peniciillain, moon Landing, cloning...all were treated with hostility simply because it pushed the boundaries of what we know. FF8 did that as well, and hostility is expected.

It had deep characters, who are quite normal instead of being so "eh?" and their background, although not as diverse as FFVI, it brought a sort of friendly feel, that they were all friends, rather than being allies in defeating a greater power. So what if they were moody, Cloud was moody too. They were Teenagers, so they were expected to have teenager problems.
It's magic system was gigantically deep, far greater then the equip-weapon-learn-this in FFIX which had been used in FFVI (Summons), FFVII (Materia), so it wasn't new or made a fresh new approach to the game. it made it feel like a re-hash.

If you dislike FFVIII so much why are using Moombas in your name and avatar?

I did a "I hate FFIX" early on despit having a Vivi avatar. it means nothing.

Stupid Moomba, please actually have a decent arguement if you re-post, and i suggest that you do, because if you don't then you'll look like such a n00b, which is lame, becasue I know you are not.

Don't degrade yourself

[TheAbominatrix]

I didnt like VIII, myself.

For one, I felt the characters were very shallow and had no motivation for the changes they went through (mainly Squall). The game made it very clear that only Squall and Rinoa mattered, and their entire relationship was ridiculous. I enjoyed Quistis, but she was pushed to the back and ignored for most of the game.

The draw system was neat and innovative, but it took just a little too much time. I dont like having to sit there and draw, draw, draw. If you could draw more than one at a time, that'd be more fun.

The battle system, other than that, was decently fun. I liked having to draw the summons. The game, aside from the storyline, was just fun, I just liked the way it flowed, but for me a game is all about story, and when you're with characters you just cannot stand, its not any fun.

The card game rocked though.

Oh, and Square's decision to include an entire segment you could only access with a Japanese-only Pocket Station was a HUGE piss off. I hate when stuff like that happens.

I didnt feel IX was that much better, but that's a whole nother issue. VIII should be judged by its own merits, and not compared to another game. If it sucks, it sucks. But dont go around trying to compare it to other games. Its not IX, it will never be IX, and IX has nothing to do with VIII.

Saying 'this game sucks' is annoying. If you dont like it, fine. But try and make it sound like you have a valid reason if you decide to share it with us.