FF8 Is Rubbish!

[Trumpet Thief]

In a way, Ultemecia was the Main Enemy all along. How, you may ask?

Simple; Edea was possesed by Ultemecia. Then when Edea was freed and back to the Matron that she was, which is at the End of Disc Two, Ultemecia is introduced to everyone. Although she was in the bad guy business from the beginning. Also, Stupid Moomba, if you think Ultemecia popped up a little too late, what about Necron. all though he represents life and death, he just popped up at the end, just like that.

I rest my case.

[Flying Mullet]

I mean seriously why are you discussing iraq in a FF8 forum?

To make you ask questions.

[Ultima Shadow]

Some people loves ff8 and some people hates it.... and that's it! (i love it.)

[Sephiroth_Lionhear88]

the things I liked about ffVIII was the junction system and that your enemys were always at the same level as your characters. you didn't have to train for hours that way. only a shame that when you would use junctioned magic your status like strength and trout would decrease. final conclusion= FFVIII DOESN'T SUCK BUT IT AIN'T THE BEST FF EVER

[Trumpet Thief]

Everyone has their own opinion, but I still find FFVIII as one of my favorites.

[Az Lionheart]

this by far the best FF of them all

[Rusty]

I agree...ff8 is the best.

[Trumpet Thief]

Heh, the people are starting to go a bit off topic. So..

(Spoilers Ahead) Everything is just my opinion...

There were, from what I think, many good things about Final Fantasy VIII, but it did have some cons.

1. They could have heard more things about Irvine and Selphie; the only thing about their past you knew was that they were in the same orphanage as everyone else.

2. To some people, the junction system was too confusing, or made the game really easy.

3. None of the characters had their own special ability, like summoner, fighter, etc.

But of course, I have amny good things too.

In my opinion, the junction system was a brilliant idea, which made the player have to use both GF's and drawing magic to make themselves stronger. Without junctioning, you would have to level up to 100 before you could max at your stats.

IMO, the characters were very detailed, and they would have their own attitude, which made them more memorable.

"Oh I remember Selphie, she was that annoying girl, right?"

I liked the graphics. From all of the Final Fantasies on the PS1, FFVIII had the best graphics, IMO.

That's what makes FFVIII my favorite Final Fantasy. But from what I think, it is based on what the player likes in a game that makes FFVIII good or bad. Someone that enjoys the dailouge, or someone that enjoys the cool type of battle system. Some people were dissapointed in FFVIII, and some people loved it. I think that I loved it.

[darkchrono]

well again, my biggest complaint about 8 is the same as many others complaint. Character development! Character development! Character development!

You can say all you want that the characters in 8 seemed like real friends with eachother and what not. Unlike 7's did who were just united through a common goal.

But I will beg to differ with you on both points.

First off. You have to remember that this is a game and not real life. And which is a more important goal for the game developers to achieve. To get the real live people who are actually the ones paying the money and playing the game to like the characters. Or for the the make believe characters within the game to like eachother.

I would say the first one is more important. And which is a better aproach to getting the game players to like the characters. For the players to find out important things in the characters life as to how he got to where he is right now and why he acts the way he does. Or for the characters to do very trivial or unimportant things in terms of the overall story with eachother like they did in 8.

That is why alot of people don't really like the characters in 8. Because they were not able to find out a great deal about them other than Zell likes hot dogs, Rinoa is a brat who has a crush on Squall through out the game, Quistis and Irvine (I really can't even say a whole lot about), and Selphie likes to paaarrrty. Just letting that information out doesn't tell people a great deal about the characters.

Now my second point about how the characters in 8 seemed like they were closer than 7's. Well 7's story really revolves mainly around the four main characters of Cloud, Tifa, Barret, and Aeris. Of those four characters. I would say that each one is closer or better friends with eachother than any of 8's characters are.

Tifa and Cloud grew up together (and the game gives a very detailed backstory to their relationship growing up). Tifa and Barret were obviously rather close friends during the game (as they were both within the same Avalanche gang. And both were kind of playing the roles of parents to Marlene during the game). Aeris was a very fun loving character who was able to come in right away and befriend each of the main characters (and you can actually really see how close of a friend Aeris becomes to each of the other main characters during the game).

So you can say that of the main characters within 7 you can say that the only ones who had a strictly business relationship from the onset were Barret and Cloud (and over the course of the game you can see a sense of friendship growing between them as well).

I will admit that Cid, Red XIII, Yuffie, and Vincent all seem like they were just there because of a common goal. But they were very secondary to the 4 main characters (as you don't even have to get Vincent or Yuffie during the course of the game).

So I would say that the four main characters within 7 were all better friends than any of the characters in 8, and were much better developed, and were much more important to the overall story . And that also lies the problem with the characters in 8. In 8 there are no Cloud's, Tifa's, Barret's, or Aeris's. Every single character in 8 is a Cid, Yuffie, Red XIII or Vincent, who are not extremely necessary to the overall plot.

[Besimudo]

Yeah, I am glad the FF9 was just like FF7 and FF10 and not like FF8!

FF7, 9 and 10 all had a punce with long hair for the main baddie and a boy with short blond hair as the goodie. Plus the plot was spelt out and I did not really have to think for myself except when Barret used words like $%#@ cos that was great.

I am glad that the old producer sacked the team that made FF8, Crono Cross and Vagrant Story, because those games had finesse, style and subtle character interactions that were left to the player to nut out on their own accord.

In conclusion, I prefer the Disney style Good Vs. Bad as seen in FF7, 9 and 10 and I hope that FF12 follows suit. Oh, too bad as the same people who made FF8 are also making FF12 - oh well looks like I'll have to put my thinking cap on. damn!

[aeris2001x2]

i think your find style, finesse and subtle character development were all over ff6-ff10. its just ff8 had bad normal character development. ff8 had a flawed story, there was nothing to work except who squalls father was and remember the orphanage revelation(how terrible).

vagrant story on the other hand had a wonderful story but AWFUL game play. so i,m glad that team went unless they could combine a vagrant story with an ff8 gameplay .

[ZeZipster]

8 was awsom cuz TEH ALL WERE FORM TEH SAME ORPENAGE GR8st pWOT TWIST EVAR!!!!!!1 OMG N HE HAD A GUN BLADE NOT JUST A GUN BUT A BLADEW00t DOOD>

[aeris2001x2]

i would normally complain about your post Zezipster but your point was so true and made me laugh, that really was ff8's worst aspect that "revelation". i love that cat too

[Carnage]

FF8 probobly lacks in most areas. But it is very challenging at times. i enjoy challenges.

[Angel Wing]

It's because Rinoa's different isn't it? It's because she's not American like all the rest of the games with blonde and brown hair, huh? RACIST! *feels hated*

Anyway I think the FFVIII was a great game and it was the game that introduced me to FF. It was probably the most imaginative game because I like the weapons, monsters, gf's, ect. The storyline was explicently excellent. The land and places were by far great. Also remember, if it weren't for FFVIII, FFIX and down to the last FF to come wouldn't be the way they are now so, so much for FFIX brought it up.

I don't get what you guys have against it. -.-"