But then there would only be nit pickers, and not people devoted to finding the meanings and such under the gameOriginally posted by DocFrance
I still wish they'd make a final one that "wraps them all up," so to speak.
And there aren't any nit-pickers now?
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I don't think they're NIT-PICKERS so much as HAIR-SPLITTERS and GRAIN COUNTERS.
Originally Posted by King Bahamut
Not to sound hostile, but you can't "stress anything enough." You know why? Because you don't know, and neither do the rest of us. However, it is an interesting topic that deserves some discussion because apparently more than one person agrees it's possible.
How would new ideas ever come about if the nay-sayers put them to rest simply because they felt, in their opinion, they "couldn't stress enough" the falseness of the idea itself? My point is, if you have a creative enough imagination, and are open to new ideas, then picturing a gigantic timeline on which all the FF's are on the same planet is not so impossible. The fact is, the guy who started the thread at least attempted to present some of the "proof" that has been put forth to support the idea...so where is your "proof" that it can't be possible?
Yes, it is doubtful. We get that. But that is what makes new crazy ideas so fun to contemplate. So basically, you need to look at it like this:
1.) I can accept that it would take an unimaginable amount of time for the central FF planet to have changed geographically/or was changed by magic...though it is unlikely, but not impossible.
2.) The stories themselves drive each individual game...but as each story has its deepest corners, it is possible that they are "laced" so-to-speak. And if not, then they could still have at least occured on the same ground (see idea number 1).
3.) Though the more obvious reason behind there being moogles, cactuars, recycled names, etc. is that it is part of the franchise, it is still possible that these themselves are the more obvious links between the FFs and the world(s) they occur in.
and 4.) The Final Fantasy games do indeed encounter many evils...in the case of FFVIII these are actually several evils spread out through time, and compress time itself. However, though each game must occupy at least several millenia of history in itself, there could still be MORE history that delves farther past what the games' storylines tell. In other words, there could not only have been enough time gone by on this "planet" for all the FFs to have taken place, but even more that would accomodate one gigantic plot that binds them all. When seen from this perspective, geographical information just doesn't seem as important now does it?
I, personally, say YES, it is possible that the FF games are all in the same world. Smaller points such as Zell's parents and whatnot can be argued further (even if to no end), but in the big picture, the "one world" idea is definitely plausable. =P
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most of them are seperate, though I have heard there may be some connection between 1, 3, and 5. Or something like that.
and, of course, FF12 will take place in Ivalice, but we already have two different Ivalices, so we will have to see...
I think they are not on the same world but must be in the same Universe. Think about Wegner's continental drift theory. The monsters in the games are very alike. I remember the bomb monster was in many of the FFs. Also airships are in the FF's. Infact there are some similarities in the cultures of each game. Can't think of any now but I'm sure there are some. With these facts I would assume they were connected some how but seperated slowly over time. Summons most likely travel through the barriers between the planets. Bahamut Zero I think it was, was flying through space in his summon. Others like Ifrit and Shiva IMO were never really the same in each game. More like the element choose to use that form to represent them when summoned. Not sure if this is a spoiler so watch out. Cloud was brought to the FFt world so they must be connected.
Ifrit's always been the same.... Except in FFMQ but that may or may not count depending on how you look at things.
Really, the only one world explanation would be "magic", which can explain ANYTHING. For example, how did Sephiroth stop the planet from healing? Magic! How does the planet heal itself? Magic! How did the ancients find out about the planet's ability to heal itself? MAGIC! How did George W. Bush win the election? ....I'll let you be the judge
I don't think they are. Mogs don't show up until FFVI. Also, in FFIV, Bahamut is on the Moon. These are just two little things, but I would have to say they are set in completly different alternate versions of "Earth".
Actually moogles first show up in FFIII, then disappear in IV, but make a appearence again in FFV.
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