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    You're free to write letters, or go down to an office. Have you even tried that? What do you expect them to do, go door to door for 100 million people? Which with government surveys they kinda do. I don't see any reason to hate the government or distrust them to the point that most people seem to. You guys really need to take off your tin foil hats.

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    I distrust all forms of power in general. It could be political, ecclesiastical, coporate, administrative, etc. Im not saying they're inherently evil, but they are, truthfully, in it for themselves and whatever happens to the rest of us is mostly incidental. The problem really stems from the US public being too stupid to hold their politicians accountable for their actions. The US is big, wealthy but far too stupid compared to other modern, industrialized nations. Politicians know this and use it against us all the time. Just like so many Communists, churches and kings before our great "democractic experiment."
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    I like how Grandmaster says something about the Iceberg population, saying how, in order for things to run smoothly, 5% need to be on top and all that, but then he calls that 5% a cancer. So, a beneficial cancer? A tumor that grows out of control, yet is full of, say, diamonds?

    I don't have a reason not to trust MY government. We've been goin' pretty decent for some 200 years. And, really, the people who run the government are just the same as us. There isn't some secret organization called The Patriots who runs things. They don't undergo some metamorphosis into creatures who only want to screw everyone else over as much as possible without getting caught. They're just a bit more informed than we are, and in a better position to make the decisions that we criticize or praise. Sure, sometimes it backfires, but they are human, after all.

    I also like how everyone else calls the US big and stupid because we're, like, uber-powerful, and just happened to elect a country boy. And yes, we did elect him, all'a you people who call him Governor Bush.

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    We, as in the minority of the USA? But, I digress.

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    Some politicians can be trusted that they are working in the best interest of the country. The current US administration and ruling powers in the legislature can not.

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    Minority by what, less than a hundred thousand? I'm too lazy to get the actual figures. All I know is that he won the electoral college, and so, like it or not, we did elect him. Sucks sometimes, huh?

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    i think a simple no suffices. does anyone think the whole of america will get broadband? ever?whole of america will get broadband? ever? kinda off the topic but whatever. they never do what they say they will do. and people dont seem to notice the WMD that bush uses (weapons of mass... distraction):o

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    I enjoy how our American politicians have mastered not only the art of distraction, but also the art of character assassination. Case and point, Richard Clarke.

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    There's a difference between character assassination and showing someone to have a history of untruthfulness. If I say one thing consistently in the past, and say another thing in the present, is it unreasonable to point to my earlier words to suggest that I'm not a credible source of information?

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    Originally posted by Rei
    I like how Grandmaster says something about the Iceberg population, saying how, in order for things to run smoothly, 5% need to be on top and all that, but then he calls that 5% a cancer. So, a beneficial cancer? A tumor that grows out of control, yet is full of, say, diamonds?
    I'd say more like a malignant tumor the base of which is lodged deep within my brain. On a very superficial level government, as well as powerful people in general, benefit the rest of us by controlling things so we can function in our day to day lives with ease. On the other side of things, they take the world which is like a big wad of clay and shape it into a system that is specifically designed to maintain their grip on my throat and my position in the dirt.

    Read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley if you haven't already. Those in power breed people who are purposely born retarded so that they will be complacent enough to do the grunt work that needs to get done without questioning their own purpose and identity. It's both incredibly sad and necessary at the same time, but I'm straying further off topic with this. It parallels the way the middle class of America is being shoved towards mediocrity and their willingness to accept it.

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    "There's a difference between character assassination and showing someone to have a history of untruthfulness. If I say one thing consistently in the past, and say another thing in the present, is it unreasonable to point to my earlier words to suggest that I'm not a credible source of information?"

    True enough, but if you're an aide to the President for 30 years, you've got to be doing something right.

    Also, look where the criticism is coming from: The Bush Administration, and right now, they have been caught in the biggest of lies, so for them to say others are lying, without pointing the blame to themselves as well, frankly disgusts me.

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    No, I don't trust them. As goyabean, I don't trust forms of power, they are easy sources of corruption.

    Thank all the things the goverment has done for me? Such as? Water supply? Public health service? It's not their work, it's the work of the people. I don't agree with the current electoral system, representative democracy nor economical system, so no, I do not trust the goverment. I don't even like to call it "my" goverment. It's the goverment of the country I live in, a country I don't feel part of, mainly because I only have a flag, and thats air.

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    No, I do not trust the Provincial Liberals of BC, or the Federal ones either for that matter. I don't know if anyone else would be any different, but the Liberals are not getting my vote.
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    That seems a bit unfair, Shadow Nexus. Isn't the government supposed to represent the people and carry out their will? Well, the good forms of gov't, at least. So, unless some families got together and paved roads and dug sewers and whatnot on their own, the gov't did.

    Not that I know much about Spain, though, so I might be completely wrong. I even forgot that y'all have a king.

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