CLose to 30 im going a bazzare combo

[Ichy]

You can talk and quote till the cows come home and leave again, but you can't tell me that I haven't seen Ninjas grab hate more than once without voking, I have, nor that an En spell wouldn't help regardless of what level it is. Seriously man, for all the theory and job combos you throw up here, yeah most of them are highly effective, but that doesn't mean that some other combos aren't, regardless of what you've read and wherever you've read it. I've seen it and I have friends who have tried it and loved it. None of the parties I've been in that has had one of these oddball combinations has ever complained, except when someone jokingly suggests we get a tank who doesn't have Voke.

It's not always as black and white as you seem to make it out to be.