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    Since when does France hate the US? Paris doesn't count. Parisians hate everyone else.

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    "Bonjourrrrr, you cheese-eating surrender monkeys" - Groundskeeper Willie

    "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." - General George S. Patton

    "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." -Norman Schwartzkopf

    "We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." - Marge Simpson

    There is also that joke, "I have a french rifle for sale. Never fired, dropped once."
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    They walk around with their noses up in the air while other people have to bail them out and fight for them. That's why people don't have much respect for France, when times get hard they lay down.

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    As much of the world does as well. Still, France seems to be the target of some wonderful negative propaganda, especially in America. We're esentially programmed to dislike the French or be indifferent to them, and as to why, I just don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cid
    They love American culture... the music, the celebrities, and especially the movies.

    Um...

    They do? Cause...well...personally I believe the French movies tend to be better. Well, in USA there's people like...Tim Burton, Orson Wells or Ridley Scott (In his good times) among others. But generally, French cinema tends to be far better than the latest Hollywood blockbuster. Of course, there is a lot of crap in both industries, but you know what I mean.

    However the best time for French cinema was the Nouvelle Vague. Ah, Truffaut...

    "Bonjourrrrr, you cheese-eating surrender monkeys" - Groundskeeper Willie

    "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." - General George S. Patton

    "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." -Norman Schwartzkopf

    "We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." - Marge Simpson

    There is also that joke, "I have a french rifle for sale. Never fired, dropped once."
    Um...do you realize you may offend someone with that? I mean, I could start making jokes about Americans, and you'd probably be pissed at me. And I have a lot of American jokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
    Um...do you realize you may offend someone with that? I mean, I could start making jokes about Americans, and you'd probably be pissed at me. And I have a lot of American jokes
    You mean he might *gasp* offend someone? Heaven forbid that what he says might hurt the feelings of someone else! I think I'm going to go cry silently in my room. Thanks a lot, you've offended me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
    Um...do you realize you may offend someone with that?
    I was pointing out how and why people don't like France, notice how it all revolves around their willingness to surrender? But, whatever.

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    Shh... you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
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    You mean he might *gasp* offend someone? Heaven forbid that what he says might hurt the feelings of someone else! I think I'm going to go cry silently in my room. Thanks a lot, you've offended me.
    Oh, does that mean I am completly free to attack nationalities and ideologies all I want? Thats great cause many of my opinions are politically and economically incorrect, so I have to be caerful when choosing words, but hey, no problem, since from now on I can insult all I want!!! Woohoo!!!

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    Go for it.
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    I dont see anyone whining about Denmark's surrender during WWII.

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    So the French don't want to commit their young men to die in a war that isn't theirs or they cannot win? Heaven forbid.

    Perhaps the Americans should remember, then, that without the French the U.S. would probably have the Queen on its coins.

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    So the French don't want to commit their young men to die in a war that isn't theirs or they cannot win? Heaven forbid.
    Exactly.

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    I dont see anyone whining about Denmark's surrender during WWII.
    Denmark did not submit to Nazi rule the way France did. For example, Denmark's resistance group was perhaps the most active in all of Europe, while France's fabled 'la resistance' did close to nothing. Denmark held a philosophy, that by not fighting against their ultimately powerful foe (since Denmark was small, and Grmany wasn't), it could save the lives of its citizens. And indeed, for example, almost all of Denmark's Jews were saved. While France was a large and strong nation, that had no reason to fall on its knees like that.
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    It had every reason to fall to it's knees like that. They couldnt win. And I'm not saying anything bad about Denmark... I find it very brave to consider your own people over fighting an impossible war. Should France have fought back? Probably, yes. But they didnt. And even if they had, it probably wouldnt have done much.

    Not to mention that it happened over 50 years ago.

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    And even if they had, it probably wouldnt have done much.
    Aside from Germany at that time, France and Britain were the strongest nations in Europe. France's war-effort could've proved to be very helpful. Alas, they surrendered.

    Not to mention that it happened over 50 years ago.
    So? What's 50 years? A generation and a half. My grandparents are old enough to remember it all perfectly.
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