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    No they didnt, in fact, going through the Ardennes's forest was a very hard thing to do.The French considered it impossible for tanks to go through it, but the Germans managed to do it.

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    "Everybody wants peace, but sometimes there are things worth fighting for, such as peace and freedom."

    True enough, but there are always consequences that often go overlooked when a fight starts, even for the most noble of cause. Ah, the fatal flaws of the human race, to want what we cannot ever truly achieve: peace. Yet, we can only hope to achieve it by its complete opposite: war. Or so it seems in this day and age. One day, I hope we advance beyond the need for war, but I fear that is far, far away.

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    As far as I understand (whilst a little off-topic) had the French 'stood up' to Hitler during the whole re-militarisation of the Rhineland scenario (which broke the Treaty of Versailles) Hitler would have been forced to back down because I believe in a history text-book I read a few weeks back there was a quote from Hitler admitting that had the French 'stood up' to him they would have been forced to retreat.

    This can't really count as bitterness towards the French however, as France had it's own reasons (as did Britain) for not opposing Hitler then. Off this site the reasons were:
    Why didn't the Allies (Britain and France) respond?
    • Internal political crisis in France
    • No unified political leadership to concentrate against Nazi Germany.
    • Britain generally supported the view that Germany was only going into her own "backyard".
    • It was believed that Germany was behaving in a reasonable and understandable manner.
    • Therefore, no action was taken despite Hitler's later comment that the march into the Rhineland had been the most nerve-racking 48 hours of his life.
    Of course that could be seen as another failure of the League of Nations, though after the Abyssinian and Manchurian disputes, that was pretty much nothing but a toothless guard dog.

    I'm personally not bitter towards the French or any nations at all, though perhaps I'm "too young" to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killy
    No they didnt, in fact, going through the Ardennes's forest was a very hard thing to do.The French considered it impossible for tanks to go through it, but the Germans managed to do it.
    They not only made it through the Ardennes once in 1940. They also pushed through it again in 1944 to begin the Battle of the Bulge.
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    I'm personally not bitter towards the French or any nations at all, though perhaps I'm "too young" to understand.
    I am not bitter towards France for WW2 either. I was just answering the question that this thread was started on, not discussing whether they were right.

    The only thing that really makes me pissed at the French is they had the gall to hold anti-American protests in the middle of American graveyards from WW2. The sites where our soldiers die freeing their country became a place for them to make a political statement. To that, I say f*** them.
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    You should have said "is they had de Gualle to hold..." It would have been a most delightful pun.

    I doubt these were officially run by the french government or anything, either. I'm sure you realize that protestors can be idiots, and often are. That, sadly, is a symptom of any large group of people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomgaze
    You should have said "is they had de Gualle to hold..." It would have been a most delightful pun.
    What a horrible, horrible pun.
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