I never said I "hated" him or that I didn't like his personality... this thread was in no way intended to have anything at all to do with personality... I'm jsut saying that I'm surprised alot of people think Steiner is a very strong battle character, when in reality, he isn't. I like to call him a "convenient" character. He is strong at first because he requires no though whatsoever.... just attack alot. and uhhh, attack and maybe attack. and He's fine... but that just doesn't cut it later in the game... and that's really all he's capable of. Shock, Stock Break, and Climhazzard are nice, yes. But costly as heck. and using ethers takes turns. In those turns he's using ether... someone else could still be dealing jsut as much damage. He does have one big upside though.... he's a walking tank. much like Barret was and all the way back to the Fighter/Knight or the first game. Every game needs one. I guess. But when faced with the choice of Steiner and ANY other character... I'm going with someone else. Maybe I'm just weird.