His outfit. Squaresoft totally ripped of the outfit from the Mariachi (El Mariachi, Desperado and Once Upon A Time In Mexico) character!
His attitude
Sucky attacks
His looks
What he wears
What are you talking about? Squall is UBER!
His outfit. Squaresoft totally ripped of the outfit from the Mariachi (El Mariachi, Desperado and Once Upon A Time In Mexico) character!
By the time they got to Galbadia Garden, she was completly over him. Did I say I cared that Squall and Rinoa got together? They both annoyed me, they deserve eachother. My point was that Rinoa is a skank.Originally Posted by rusty_angel777
Weren't Seifer and Rinoa kinda an on and off couple? And it wasnt a minute later :P Would could right a heap of what ifs..but in the end Squall and Rinoa got together...no matter what Seifer and Rinoa did...thats FF8 for ya so ya gotta live with it
Quistis was immature and pushy? Okay... then what was Rinoa? And the rest of the party? Yes, he should have changed, opened up. But not to the extent that he did. Change does happen, but it doesnt happen like that. It made it seemed forced and dumb.Not really, he had minimal contact with people through his own choice. The only people he spent time with to any extent were Seifer and Quistis. He didn't hide his emotions about Seifer, and Quistis was immature and pushy.
He gets forced during the game to interact with other people because he's finished school, most people change fairly dramatically around this time from my knowledge.
I was refering to the way he reacted when Rinoa was in a coma, not being confronted with saving the world.Hardly, he was thrown into a fight to save the world. He'd always been able to shut off from the world and be spoon fed, now he'd been forced to spend time with people and care about them. He let Ellone go when he was a child and had decided not to care about anyone so not to get hurt, now he didn't have a choice and refused to lose someone a second time.
As for making stupid decisions, well given it was his first love this is hardly a surprise.
And there still needs to be a "Squall just plain ol' sucks" poll option.
Agreed.
The big turnaround, if I remember correctly, was when he visited FH. If you speak to one of the people on the bridge to the town he's a complete ass... Squall realises he sounds just like himself, that it isn't very nice, and seems to change right after that.
Yes, he did always have people being nice to him. And everyone reacted the same to his cold exterior (except Quistis, but she was his instructor, that's different) and backed off. Rinoa was different. Rinoa saw through his cold exterior and decided to treat him as the person she saw and not the cold exterior that he shows. Not to mention she obviously was at least flirting with him if not liked him for a lot of their early journey. I doubt Squall had ever experienced that before. Experiencing love for the first time, especially in the teenage years, can have a very weird effect on a person, especially someone like Squall. And again, in FH when Rinoa is in a comma and they are walking to Esthar, Squall doesn't just open up. He's alone, he doesn't have to hide from anyone because no one is there. So you see this side of Squall that you could only see when he is alone. And I think when he says the words that he says out loud for the first time, they become more true than he thought they were.
Yes, they were all immature, they were all teenagers. What was different about Rinoa was that she was persistent, to a fault. She didn't back off when Squall was cold, which is something that no one had really done before. And like I said, Squall is a teenager, just out of schooling. Teenagers at this age are very very succeptable to life changes. At this point in their lives, when they are on their own, when they get to make their own decisions, many teenagers go through radical personality changes very very quickly. It's normal. It happened to me. I think the great accomplishment of Squall was that he changed and changed so quickly. He worked through many teenage angst problems and realized that a decision that he made at a younger age was a wrong decision, detrimental to himself and the people around him. The character development that Squall goes through is radical, yes, but normal for a person of his age and surroundings.
And I wish that people would stop thinking of the FH scene as the scene where he just suddendly changes, this is not at all the case. Change would imply that he felt one before and feels a different way now, which is not what happened. Nothing changed about him in that scene, he simply reveals something to the audience that they didn't know before, something that dramatically builds his character and explains many of his actions up to that point. It happens in a lot of stories, especially with the protagonist, and this story is not different. Yes, Squall does go through dramatic change, but not in that scene.
That sounds a little too easy... o_o;
SRL is kicking ass in this topic.
Oh, and what's that one Squall fansite shrine thing? I forget what it was called, but it was great.
SRL u rock. u got squall completly sussed.
i just wanted to add that squalls cold exterior was his protection from harm. he saw opening up as a threat, to trust others was to put his situation out of his own hands. he states this at least once, disc 2 i think. he only ever wants to rely on himself or he may lose his sense of self.
of course rinoa's ways changed this. i think alot of ppl criticise there romance 4 being too imature. thats the point. it was meant to be a teenage love affair that would lead to a cosmic story line(which it did) and to the birth of ultimecia( i believe she a child, grand child etc or even if R=U. still works). this is a metaphor 4 the cosmic and world changing things going on in squall from a simple girls relationship.
the flaws could start with rinoa. she had stopped seeing seifer the summer before so thats why she seemed not to be affected by news of his "death". i,m not gonna defend the character flaws in all the other characters. but squall's development is faultless.
" Redeem me into childhood. Show me myself without the shell" Nightwish- Ghost Love Score.
" Everything is Clearer now. Life is just a dream you know, thats never ending...i,m ascending". Cowboy Bebop- Blue
" Noriko...Kazumi...When you return i,ll be there to say...Welcome Home" Jung- Gunbuster
"...Shut up. The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean
a thing. Aeris is gone. Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh,
cry...... or get angry...... What about us...... what are WE supposed
to do? What about my pain? My fingers are tingling. My mouth is dry. My
eyes are burning!" Cloud- FF7
hmm true people change a lot I left high school and rather like squall through out I'd been a cold hearted person seperated from society yet Within a two week holiday the other people my age and one girl in particular persistently involving me even if I refused and not letting me remain seperated got me to mingle and changed me fundamentally I now have a lot more experience with girls and people in general I can go out meet someone for the first time and talk to them whereas before I'd rarely go out and if I did I wouldn't mix with the people so it's highly possible that squall would've changed quickly after FH
Basically just rehashing the same points, which really arent that valid. Squall was a poor character, I'll repeat it til I die. Rinoa was a hussy, I'll repeat that too.
Well, you didn't leave me much to argue with there so....I'll say it until I die, Squall is awesome and Rinoa was a hussy.
Plus Rinoa is a complete brat and bimbo
and so far 58.33% of you think Squall is uterly uber (Mr.Mimic
And that really doesnt mean much. At least 58.33% of the population loves Britney Spears... but she still sucks.Plus a complete brat and bimbo
and so far 58.33% of you think he is uterly uber (
Well, she has boobs
Besides i dont think many people like her at all (aside from old men and 9 year old girls)
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