Squall

[celtcknight]

"Hit me baby one more time"

"SIKE" Whats more annoying is that her popularity was finally dying out but then that damn Madonna put her under her wing, so here she is again, not going away but infesting the radio and TV with her madonna style crap the press calls talent. Madonna lost points on this one.

Maybe I should comment on the topic, Rinoa reminds me of a lost exchange student.

[aeris2001x2]

Basically just rehashing the same points, which really arent that valid. Squall was a poor character, I'll repeat it til I die. Rinoa was a hussy, I'll repeat that too.

sounds like a defeatiest post to me. if u have to resort to this then u really are out of ideas.

there was no rehash, it was clarification, reason for his personality change. i,m willing to accept his as poor if u prove it but i see no evidence from you and loads of pro squall evidence from SRL.

though i have to agree, britney sucks. how many oscars did titantic win? that sucks too. popularity is no measure of worth. and i put him as uber but only cause everything else was a negative. he kicks ass but hes no cloud.

[TheAbominatrix]

sounds like a defeatiest post to me. if u have to resort to this then u really are out of ideas.

there was no rehash, it was clarification, reason for his personality change. i,m willing to accept his as poor if u prove it but i see no evidence from you and loads of pro squall evidence from SRL.

though i have to agree, britney sucks. how many oscars did titantic win? that sucks too. popularity is no measure of worth. and i put him as uber but only cause everything else was a negative. he kicks ass but hes no cloud.

How am I the one out of ideas? Lou and you have been posting the same thing over and over, and I'd rather not not spam up a thread by continually arguing the same point over and over again. What's the point of that? I'm not trying to convince you, or anyone, to agree with me. If you think Squall is a well thought out character, then good for you. Though you may need to put down the Sweet Valley High books and pick up a copy of Catch 22 to learn about proper character development.

Edit: and I wont even get into the Cloud thing. He was certainly better developed than Squall... but have you even played any FF game before VII? Want good character development? Try Terra. Or Cecil. Or Kain.

[aeris2001x2]

yes i have. ff1 is mastered and so is ff6 which is my second fav ff . i havent played ff4 yet, still on ff2 so cant comment there. terra was good but nothing to squall or cloud cause ff6 had so many characters it was hard to give 1 genuis development.

i know about character development. i am well versed in shakespeare, read genuis books like 1984, a clockwork orange, jane eyre etc

we havent said the same thing. we have countered what u said. all u have said is he completly changes for no reason, if we have rehashed it is because u did first. we have countered your points logically with evidence and u have offered nothing but a reliteration of your original point. i,m asking you, tell us why his change is stuiped? WHY is it sudden and unbevliable?

and again, dont treat me like a ff8 loving zealot. it is far down the rankings 4 me and i expect ff4 and ff5 to beat it when i finally get to them. but i,m defending my view easily cause u r offering nothing new for us to attempt to counter which is the nature of a debate.

i,m sorry, i had no intention of starting a flame posting sequence but yeah if u want to call it quits ok but i havent had an ff debate 4 so long

[TheAbominatrix]

What you posted is opinion, and the same opinion over and over. Mine is opinion as well, and no matter how many facts both sides have put in, it isnt going to change opinion. I didnt come into this trying to get you guys to change your opinion, and if you came into it trying to change mind, you wont get anywhere.

[Flying Mullet]

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You useless turd.

[SeeDRankLou]

How am I the one out of ideas? Lou and you have been posting the same thing over and over, and I'd rather not not spam up a thread by continually arguing the same point over and over again. What's the point of that? I'm not trying to convince you, or anyone, to agree with me. If you think Squall is a well thought out character, then good for you. Though you may need to put down the Sweet Valley High books and pick up a copy of Catch 22 to learn about proper character development.

Edit: and I wont even get into the Cloud thing. He was certainly better developed than Squall... but have you even played any FF game before VII? Want good character development? Try Terra. Or Cecil. Or Kain.

You know insulting people is not the best way to get your point across. First of all, I have presented different ideas in each of my posts, but I have also reiterated a few of the same ideas to make a point. Second, the things that I say are objective to try and attempt to clarify things that people might not be seeing because Squall's character development is rather incripted in the story and takes into consideration several things that the writer assumes you assume. And third...Catch 22? I kind of see the why you have the opinion you have now. I'd much rather get character development lessons from Dr. Suess than Joseph Heller. The best character development I've seen recently was done by Michael Moore, I don't know I guess that's just my style.

Terra...brilliant. Cecil...decent. Kain....eh. Cloud....very good. Faris (FFV)...note worthy and very good, I don't know if that's in contrast to the kind of simple-ish plot of FFV or not, but still good.

[aeris2001x2]

lol nice one mimic.

exactly, u have finally realised the truth. i get sick of stating the opinion thing and i forget once and u stoop 2 using it on me. but we were having a rational debate that doesnt subscribe to opinion.

[TheAbominatrix]

You know insulting people is not the best way to get your point across. First of all, I have presented different ideas in each of my posts, but I have also reiterated a few of the same ideas to make a point. Second, the things that I say are objective to try and attempt to clarify things that people might not be seeing because Squall's character development is rather incripted in the story and takes into consideration several things that the writer assumes you assume. And third...Catch 22? I kind of see the why you have the opinion you have now. I'd much rather get character development lessons from Dr. Suess than Joseph Heller. The best character development I've seen recently was done by Michael Moore, I don't know I guess that's just my style.

Terra...brilliant. Cecil...decent. Kain....eh. Cloud....very good. Faris (FFV)...note worthy and very good, I don't know if that's in contrast to the kind of simple-ish plot of FFV or not, but still good.

First of all, I didnt intend to insult anyone. Dont accuse me of doing so. Secondly, it's my opinion. I disagree with yours, but I dont insult yours, so please dont insult mine. If you dont like Catch 22 or Joseph Heller, thats fine. I think he's an amazing writer, and I like Micheal Moore very much as well. I think Squall is as 2d as his graphics, and that's that.

[SeeDRankLou]

Though you may need to put down the Sweet Valley High books and pick up a copy of Catch 22 to learn about proper character development.

That insulted me.

And I was a little harsh, Joseph Heller's not that bad, I was just in a weird mood when I wrote my earlier post. And I didn't insult your opinion I insulted your book selection, which I also take back.

[TheAbominatrix]

That insulted me.

And I was a little harsh, Joseph Heller's not that bad, I was just in a weird mood when I wrote my earlier post. And I didn't insult your opinion I insulted your book selection, which I also take back.

It wasnt directed at you, but I do apologize for insulting you. I truly didnt intend to.

And no worries.

[Strider]

His outfit. Squaresoft totally ripped of the outfit from the Mariachi (El Mariachi, Desperado and Once Upon A Time In Mexico) character!

Breine brings up an interesting point, but I'm afraid I have to refute it, because I know. I even examined the differences myself. For one, El Mariachi clothes are truly Mexican-inspired: short overshirt and subtly decorated pants, just like a true mariachi player. Squall, however, wears a bomber jacket and jean-type pants, much like. . . say, the guy from the opening of Bad Dudes. It's difference enough to say that Squall's get-up wasn't inspired from that of Antonio Banderas.

For everyone's consideration, I even put together a visual to explain everything. Enjoy.

[celtcknight]

You know what would avoid misunderstandings and misinterpretations... Better emoticons. HAHAAHA

I need a smiley guy made for me with one eyebrow rasied and a jaw drop. Thats usually the mood im in

[DocFrance]

President Deling has been kidnapped by Mexicans.

Are you an apathetic enough dude to rescue the President?

Squall and Seifer are...

APATHETIC DUDES

...whatever.