Seal Massaca

[Snowman]

it's things like this that help reinforce my reasoning to push past intellectual debate and just beat the living hell out of people who hurt animals.

it amazes me the amount of people who are vegetarian and think that by debating with murders you can stop them...while every minute you do another life is taken. im not saying everyone has to be as tough as me...but dont allow villians to conduct villiany simply because your afriad of confrontation. it's damn luck im not the richest man in the world because by now i would have wiped out the whole of canada

[HOOTERS]

The seals are the real villians here, eating all those fish. Who will picket to save the fish, eh? I suppose if there was a mass-culling of fish you'd be happy with that, wouldn't you.

[Snowman]

no actually i wouldnt, vegetarians dont eat fish or birds. but at the same time seals carnt exactly go shopping at morrisons can they.

your post wasnt funny in the least

[HOOTERS]

Funny? Sorry, but I don't think the mass-eating of fish by overweight, lazy, ungrateful seals is a particularly funny subject. Maybe David Letterman could get some laughs out of it but otherwise no.

[Dr Unne]

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding what anyone has said so far in this thread. Snowman, are you saying that you think people who kill animals are murderers, and you want to beat those people up? Thankfully the law disagrees, and people who beat up other people are thrown in jail, even if they're defending a truckload of baby seals. Because humans are worth more than animals.

Are we debating vegetarianism? I dislike unnecessary harming of animals, but killing animals for the purpose of allowing me to eat them is necessary, in my book.

[Casey]

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRe...d=155-04142004


Is what there talking about unne.


I think its to much there killing, and there only killing them for the skins. Ive seen images of a guy batting a baby seals head the other day on fox news, and it was disturbing. But yeah I guess you can call it balancing the food chain...

[Shadow Nexus]

Are we debating vegetarianism? I dislike unnecessary harming of animals, but killing animals for the purpose of allowing me to eat them is necessary, in my book.

It is not necessary, you can live without meat, but hey, we are ornivores, and it's natural to feel inclined to eat meat. I eat meat, I would prefer not to, but well, I am not perfect, I admit I cannot avoid to eat it. However, unless I am in a restaurant, I always look where the meat comes from, assuring it comes from my community where measures in the killing of animals for food are very strict, so they don't suffer. Same goes for eggs, I look at the procedence to know those eggs have been taken from a farm that dosen't have them trapped in cages where they can't move. I find treating animals with cruelty is unethical, but killing them fast for food...I don't believe that to be unethical, it's preety natural after all.

However, what I don't apreciate is an annoying fundamentalist vegetarian to call me a murderer for eating meat


Anyway, as for the seal massacre, well, I cannot understand what kind of moral values a person who buys fur coats may have. Schopenhauer said a person who is cruel to animals is probably a bad person to people. Well, judging from my experience, thats true. I recommend everyone to visit peta.org, it says quite a few interesting things about fur factories. I love how the maximize benefits while reducing costs includes ignoring any ethical consideration whatsoever.

[Big D]

Inhumane hunting of animals, for whatever purpose, is grotesque and should not be permitted, in my opinion. Especially not if the purpose is purely cosmetic, for example fur-collection.

If animals are in sustainable numbers and are culled in a humane manner, for example cattle that're bred for meat and leather, then it's hard to argue with... but seals are intelligent and inoffensive, not to mention decreasing in number.[q=Snowman] it's damn luck im not the richest man in the world because by now i would have wiped out the whole of canada[/q]Murdering 32 million innocent people? How would that help in the least, and how is it at all justifiable given your compaint about 'murderers'?

I consume meat, but I actively avoid products that I know to be sourced from inhumane practices. I don't feel like I deserve to be murdered for this. Any "lifestyle choice" can cause harm, that doesn't mean that you should kill everyone who's different to you. After all, just two years ago a vegan couple in my city were convicted for the death of their infant child, who they tried to raise on vegetable products rather than milk. Don't think anyone's calling for the extermination of vegans. [q=noname]I guess you can call it balancing the food chain...[/q]The food chain's usually good at balancing itself, except in areas where human have interfered. The Japanese whaling industry often uses 'restoring balance' as a justification for the mass-killing of Antarctic Minke whales, claiming that they're pests responsible for destroying fish stocks. The argument doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.

But one other question about vegetarianism... why is it always assumed that it's OK to kill and eat plants? Plants react to stimuli, they have 'feelings' too, you might say.

[Shadow Nexus]

But one other question about vegetarianism... why is it always assumed that it's OK to kill and eat plants? Plants react to stimuli, they have 'feelings' too, you might say.

Hahahahahah! You're being a bit exagerated

Reminds me to the Simpson:

"I am vegetarian level 6, I don't eat anything that has a shadow"

[Casey]

[q=noname]I guess you can call it balancing the food chain...[/q]

The food chain's usually good at balancing itself, except in areas where human have interfered. The Japanese whaling industry often uses 'restoring balance' as a justification for the mass-killing of Antarctic Minke whales, claiming that they're pests responsible for destroying fish stocks. The argument doesn't hold water, I'm afraid.

Yeah I know, it sort of like killing a mocking bird. Seals aint harming any, and yet these guys are killing these little seal pups all in purpose for the fur. Us humans have almost driven species of animals to the brink of extinction, like the Washington State Salmons, we know pay millions a year to restoring them. Its just I think its wrong to kill them when us humans probably consume more fish then a seal does, and the world is full of plenty fish. But hey humans are apart of the food chain, and I guess it is right in a way to kill them even though I am sort of against it.

[crono_logical]

Just because you eat meat doesn't make you a murderer anyway - how many of us here have actually personally slaughtered an animal to munch upon?

[Leeza]

Just because you eat meat doesn't make you a murderer anyway - how many of us here have actually personally slaughtered an animal to munch upon?

Not too many of us, but it's like being an accomplice to a murder. If you know about a murder, you have to report it and do something about it or you're as guilty as the actual murderer. Same thing with knowing how animals are butchered. If I know that it's done unethically, I won't touch it and make sure that any eggs that I buy are from free range chickens who are properly fed.

[DocFrance]

Do you know how many animals are killed when they plow fields for grain? I'd say millions a year. So by eating a slice of bread, by that logic, you too are an accomplice to murder.

[LH]

I'd like to catch someone beating a baby seal on the head and give them some of their own medicine. That's just really... a messed up thing to do.

Yeah, Maddox already pwned the pretentious "meat is murder" crowd. However I can absolutely understand boycotting products made from animals that were tortured or whatever. That's absolutely unnecessary.

[DocFrance]

Way up north where the air is cold
People up there ain't got no gold
Only way to make a livin'
Is clubbin' the baby seals

Thumping something on the head is actually one of the most humane ways to kill an animal. As long as you smack it quickly and hard, it won't feel a thing. Of course, you gotta calm it down before you thump it - adrenaline will make the meat tough.

I learned a lot about rabbits during survival training. Seals are pretty much the same thing.