aeris haters?

[TheAbominatrix]

Tifa never tells her, but Aerith clearly knows. Aerith references that Tifa likes him a few times.

[Sefie1999AD]

Next time you play an FF and your people get knocked down, look at their status (like, for example, when your character has haste cast on them, it should say 'Haste' next to their name. How you view the status varies from game to game). It will always say 'K.O.', 'Swoon', or something to that effect.

OOC:

Not quite. In FF1-3 NES, it says "Dead". In addition, when you go into the menu, you'll see characters with tombstones or crosses and texts like R.I.P. (at least in FF2j, not sure about FF3j). However, they can still be revived if you use Life spell or (in FF2j) a high-level Esuna spell on them. Or if you bring them to Clinic/Church/Statue/Reviving Spring/etc to be revived. In FF1 Origins, when you go to Church with someone having 0 HP, the Priest asks you, "You want to revive [name]?" and if you choose yes and pay for the revival, he says "Arise, fallen warrior!" Then you see two angels coming down from the heavens and revive the character.

[TheAbominatrix]

Ah, I havent played those ones. DJZen says it's because death really didnt effect the plot as much then...

But in IV on, the point is moot. VII most especially.

[Sefie1999AD]

Ah, I havent played those ones. DJZen says it's because death really didnt effect the plot as much then...

But in IV on, the point is moot. VII most especially.

Maybe it didn't in FF1, but FF2 has a lot of characters dying, even some who are in your party. Life spells won't work, and you can't carry their bodies to reviving statues. FF3j also has quite a few characters dying.

About FF4, I think that kind of proves how battle mechanics don't work with the story. You can try using Soft (Gold Needles) to (SPOILER)remove Palom and Porom's petrification, but it won't work until Mysidia's Elder comes and heals them. FF5 also has a similar situation. (SPOILER)When Galuf defeats Exdeath with 0 HP left, he's heavily wounded, and he dies even though the party uses Cure 3, Phoenix Down, Life and Elixir on him. I also like FFT's system. When someone gets KOed there, you'll have 3 turns to use Phoenix Down or Life spells on that character or he/she will die, and it's impossible to revive him/her. The same applies to monsters.

*UNMARKED FF7 SPOILERS BELOW!*


Even if battle mechanics worked with FF7's story, would you guys really had revived Aeris with Phoenix Downs or Life spells when she was stabbed by Sephiroth? It would totally undo a powerful scene which many people find really tragic and which makes them hate Sephiroth even more, enough to go and defeat him for everything he's done. And I don't think Aeris would have wanted to be revived. At least not yet. Her mission was to pray for Holy to save the Planet, and the only way to make Holy appear was when a soul praying for it reaches the Planet. And AFAIK, one can only reach the Planet when one dies. Maybe she wanted to survive, maybe she wanted to return when her mission is done ("I'll come back when it's all over!"), but she still completed her hard task.

[Imperia]

I like Aeris, but I like Tifa more. Aeris is HIGHLY overrated. I say this not because of her good deeds (that's a good reason to like her), but she's overrated because of her personality. Everyone thinks she an all-pure, all-perfect, goddess-type character who's very sweet, but she's NOT PERFECT. She acts like a brat from time to time. She's got a bad temper, and there were a few times (if you put her in your party, and choose not to do a certain thing in the game), where she wants things HER way and pouts when you don't do it. Aeris is a great character, but again SHE'S NOT PERFECT. Plus, she had no right to throw herself on Cloud just because he reminded her of her lost boyfriend-whom she cared for deeply. As I think about that, it's possible that she just saw Cloud as Zak's replacement. Kind of a dumb way to get a new boyfriend...

I'm also so sick of the anti-Tifa's flames on her. Sure, everyone has their own thoughts on characters, but there's a point where it crosses the line. It irks me when they (not only when ignorantly call her a slut), but when they call her weak and/or pointless just because she's shy. People who hate shy people are down right cruel. I say this, because I'm a pretty quiet person offline. I'm quiet, but I'm not weak.

Those who think Tifa should have died instead, I think they have some seroius issues. Kind people (and characters) do NOT deserve to be murdered. Tifa doesn't deserve it, and neither did Aeris.

[aeris2001x2]

lol i think aeris and tifa are very different but are both fantastic people. they are simultaneosly oppisites and the same.i suppose it comes down to who is closer to the kind of girl you would like to date or have as a daughter or be your best friend etc.

its that
awful word,bias again.

and cute beats hot every time. i also think aeris is not perfect, far from it, but this is her beauty. she is unearthly, an ancient, but also very human. she may be spiteful to tifa sumtimes but its just her playful ness. she has a heart of gold. remember, she sacrifices her life to save the world instead of having cloud, knowing tifa would take good care of him...

i,ll stop now, i have much more to say but i,ll be here all night lol.

[~Tenderness~]

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Tifa never tells her, but Aerith clearly knows. Aerith references that Tifa likes him a few times.

Good point. I remember that now. Yeah if the player takes Tifa to the temple of the ancients Aeris will still ask Cait Sith to predict how compatible she and Cloud are which is quite a bitchy thing to do. However I personally don't think that obliterates the good points that Aeris has and I think it ceases to be as bitchy an action if Tifa isn't taken to the temple of the ancients with Cloud and Aeris. Besides Tifa was bitchy/mean at times too, for example if the player takes the stairs at the Shinra Headquarters she calls Barret a retard which isn’t very nice However that doesn't obliterate the good points that Tifa has.

I like Aeris, but I like Tifa more. Aeris is HIGHLY overrated. I say this not because of her good deeds (that's a good reason to like her), but she's overrated because of her personality. Everyone thinks she an all-pure, all-perfect, goddess-type character who's very sweet,

Not everyone thinks that. I'm an Aeris fan and I don't think she was a completely pure and perfect character *^_^* However I do think she is sweet at times. She has her flaws but she has her good points too. Same goes for Tifa in my opinion *^_^*

I agree with what aeris2001x2 said about Aeris being an ancient but also very human In fact that's one of the things that I like about her

but she's NOT PERFECT. She acts like a brat from time to time. She's got a bad temper, and there were a few times (if you put her in your party, and choose not to do a certain thing in the game), where she wants things HER way and pouts when you don't do it. Aeris is a great character, but again SHE'S NOT PERFECT.

I thought those scenes where she seemed angry were funny They added characterisation I think.

Plus, she had no right to throw herself on Cloud just because he reminded her of her lost boyfriend-whom she cared for deeply. As I think about that, it's possible that she just saw Cloud as Zak's replacement. Kind of a dumb way to get a new boyfriend...

I believe Aeris didn't care deeply for Zack. She liked him but it wasn’t serious. She even states so.

Cloud and Aeris in the Sector Six playground :

Aeris "My first boyfriend."
Cloud "You were... serious?"
Aeris "No. But I liked him for a while."

Another quote:

Cloud "I probably knew him. What was his name?"
Aeris "It doesn't really matter."

She doesn’t seem to care that Cloud might know Zack. Perhaps Cloud could have even known Zack’s location. Of course we as players can later find out that (SPOILER) Zack is dead but Aeris doesn’t know what has happened to him. Wouldn’t she have wanted to know more about Zack if she still a lot cared for him?

Aeris’s relationship with Zack was in the past. She realizes this. In Gongaga she evens states that it’s all in the past now and that she doesn’t really mind that she hasn’t heard from him but she does feel for his parents. His parents are worrying over his being missing and Aeris feels bad about that but she doesn’t feel bad about not being able to be with him because he is missing.

Aeris spends time trying to find out about Cloud's own personality.

Marlene "Guess what? Guess what? Aeris was asking me lots of questions. Like what kind of person Cloud is. I bet she likes you, Cloud!"

Aeris comes to realise that Cloud is a different person from Zack. She might have been drawn to Cloud initially because his appearance looked similar to Zack’s but as she spent time with him as well as others that knew him and as she got to know him I think she started to become interested in him for who he was and not for who he reminded her of.

Aeris ".........first off, it bothered me how you looked exactly alike. Two completely different people, but look exactly the same. The way you walk, gesture...I think I must have seen him again, in you..."
Aeris "But you're different."
Aeris "Things are different..."
Aeris "Cloud...I'm searching for you..."
Cloud "............?"
Aeris "I want to meet you."
Cloud "But I'm right here."
Aeris (I know, I know... what I mean is...) "I want to meet..... you."

I'm also so sick of the anti-Tifa's flames on her. Sure, everyone has their own thoughts on characters, but there's a point where it crosses the line. It irks me when they (not only when ignorantly call her a slut), but when they call her weak and/or pointless just because she's shy. People who hate shy people are down right cruel. I say this, because I'm a pretty quiet person offline. I'm quiet, but I'm not weak.

I agree with you but it irks me just as much when people call Aeris a slut because she was open and honest about her feelings and because she flirted with Cloud. A flirter is not the same thing as a slut.~

[zacks_clone]

I agree ~Tenderness~. I suppose that Aeris might have loved the real cloud,and not the Zack image.

[TheAbominatrix]

I do agree with your points, ~Tenderness~, I just cant stand her. I agree that she is a brave person, and a good person. She just works my last nerve.

[Cid_Rocks]

As to myself, I was happy and sad when she died. She wasn't a good fighter as we all know, but she was my best magic user. As sometimes she was total jerk towards Tifa(talking about how she liked Cloud right by Tifa), I'm glad she died. But she was the bright-hearted member of the gang. I mean seriously, if your team is near death, I'd rather have Aeris encouraging me than Barret cussing me out. It helped to have her dead as you didn't have to pay xtra gil for weapons, and didn't have to hold your other members back to level her up. But what it all comes down to, it did suck majorly to have her die. But it wasn't a complete tragedy.

[Imperia]

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I agree with you but it irks me just as much when people call Aeris a slut because she was open and honest about her feelings and because she flirted with Cloud. A flirter is not the same thing as a slut.~

I know. That's dumb when they do that to Aeris, too. They even use her unbottoned dress as an excuse to call her that. People are crazy.

[Master Quan]

Despite this being about her dieing is there any way to GET HER BACK? I ask this because I'm a perfectionist and want to have use with all characters at level 100 with top weapons, -hack-Gollum!-hack-

[Imperia]

No there isn't. There is no way to do that.

[Starcrest]

personally i think her death is over rated, and ppl need ta get over it

[FFFFsephychibi]

I think Aeris is the best female character in ff7! Actually tied with Yuffie... anyhoo

Um... yeah if it wasnt for Aeris, my sexy Cloud and his little furry friends would all be dead!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Aeris was not whiney or very annoying, she actually helped me through half the game, unlike *cough* Tifa biotch *cough*

and i also despise Rinoa... GRRRRRRRR..... such and annoying child!!!

GAAAAAHHHH!!! i wish Irvine would just shoot her!!

In other news.... Aeris was COOOL in my COOOOOLNESS book! SO THERE!!!