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    The images have led to criminal charges against six American soldiers.
    Six. Not all. There are many soldiers who do their job honorably, and do it well. This is an example of a few grossly disturbed individuals out of thousands of men and women who do their jobs... I hope people don'taru use this as a reason to hate our troops.
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    Christ almighty, that's bad. These guys are a disgrace, and I hope their punishment is swift and just - that is, if they are indeed guilty of these crimes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Taru-Waru
    Six. Not all. There are many soldiers who do their job honorably, and do it well. This is an example of a few grossly disturbed individuals out of thousands of men and women who do their jobs... I hope people don'taru use this as a reason to hate our troops.
    Very well put.
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    True. Only six have been charged - but others in the camp must have known. Aren't soldiers taught about the Geneva convention? I read that one of the 'guards' had never even heard of it. Not that the U.S. (or more specifically the Bush administration) cares about international agreements anyway...

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    Yeah, this happens. It's a sad fact that not all Americans live up to their heritage. But, of course, our troops are goin' to be branded sadistic bastards who are there just to take advantage of the noble, peace-loving Iraqi people, just like all Americans are.

    On another note, I know the title of the thread is sarcastic, but it still bothers me. "America's Finest" shouldn't be thrown around.

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    The irony of that post is disturbing, Rei. I really hope it was intended, but something tells me it wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taru-Waru
    There are many soldiers who do their job honorably, and do it well.
    you mean killing innocent women and children with bombs. yes, i'll say they do that well. that's why there are so many suicide bombers. americans have kills their whole family and now they have nothing left to live for. so they kills themselves trying to take away other peoples family so they'll learn their lesson. i'd like to be over there to shoot those americans.

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    That second part, with the "sadistic bastards," was full of something like irony, but everything else was, uh, honest. Perhaps I should have said "ALL of our troops blah blah blah" instead of just those sick few.

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    The sarcasm in your post implies that you're "branding" the Iraqi people as not peace-loving, and noble (as if they're all extremist suicide bombers), when in the same sentence you're saying it's wrong to brand all the American troops something based on the actions of few. See what I mean?

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    I have pictures of what was going on posted in my livejournal, which I wont link to because they're very grusome.

    I do like, however, that we're quick to lump the Iraqi forces as a bunch of terrorist bastards, but so quick to exonerate the rest of America's troops from this disgusting display. Both groups have their good and bad people.

    I almost vomited when I first saw the pictures of this. Thank God we went over there to stop Saddam from torturing his own people... I guess some of our own wanted their turn. If Iraq was doing this to our POWs, we'd be pitching quite a fit. So much for the Geneva convention... though, since when has anyone followed that, anyway?

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    I saw those photos in your LJ. It was disgusting and it put tears in my eyes to see something so horrible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    I have pictures of what was going on posted in my livejournal, which I wont link to because they're very grusome.

    I do like, however, that we're quick to lump the Iraqi forces as a bunch of terrorist bastards, but so quick to exonerate the rest of America's troops from this disgusting display. Both groups have their good and bad people.

    I almost vomited when I first saw the pictures of this. Thank God we went over there to stop Saddam from torturing his own people... I guess some of our own wanted their turn. If Iraq was doing this to our POWs, we'd be pitching quite a fit. So much for the Geneva convention... though, since when has anyone followed that, anyway?
    Who is exonerating anyone? Besides, I can't say it enough, but these are only six deranged individuals - NOT the entire American force!
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    Ah, I see what you mean. I just had in mind the book series World War III by Ian Slater, where every communist country says something about U.S. imperialistic aggression against the freedom-loving peoples of whoever they are, when they're always the ones attacking. I've always liked the line, so I figured I'd throw it in. I probably should've said freedom fighters, or militia, or whatever the hell they call themselves, instead of "Iraqi people," so I wouldn't be insulting the whole of Iraq, but that's not how the lines in the books went.

    I didn't know they beat a guy to death. Now I'm REALLY ashamed of how they acted. It's a pretty big jump to murderous rage, I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocFrance
    Who is exonerating anyone? Besides, I can't say it enough, but these are only six deranged individuals - NOT the entire American force!
    What I'm saying is, when Iraqi forces do something bad, half of the country is up in arms about what terrorists they are. Evil people. No one bothers to care that, while yes some of them are very bad... some of them only wish to be free, from both Saddam and America. We invaded them, after all, not the other way around. But when American soldiers do something bad, we always get to the truth of the matter very quickly and calmly... that it's only a small part of the 'greater good'.

    And I never blamed the entire American force. In fact I said basically the same thing you did.

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