Bush vs Kerry

[Casey]

Bush has very polarized views on a myriad of issues. He forces us to either love him or hate him, because of his all or nothing standpoint on just about anything.

He doesnt force me to love him or hate him. Only thing I hate about Bush is he wont close up are borders, and send several military personal or national guards down there. Terrorists can easily enter are country, and I dont know if he is doing it for votes or what not? I just hate it.

Kerry seems just the opposite. He almost never makes a firm stand on any position. Noone loves or hates Kerry, because he gives us nothing to love or hate.

You know why he doesnt take a firm stance on any position? Because he takes all kinds of positions on certain things. He says this, then next he says somthing different. Like the deal with his medals, he threw his medals away because he thought it was bad then he said he kept them. He voted for the 87 billion to support funding for are troops, before he voted against it.

Who is the lesser of two evils? The man who has massively polarizing oppinions on everything, or the man who has no oppinions on anything?

None of them are. Its just I think Bush is doing a good job and the economy is just recovering, let the man finish the job he started. Id be so dissapointed though if Kerry wins this election, because he looks like a two-face person with his lies. But then again both not all perfect, then again no one is..

[The Captain]

"Its just I think Bush is doing a good job and the economy is just recovering, let the man finish the job he started. Id be so dissapointed though if Kerry wins this election, because he looks like a two-face person with his lies. But then again both not all perfect, then again no one is.."

Have we all forgotten Bush's stances when he was Governor Of Texas? Among other things, he supported not going into other countries, believed in isolating America. Sounds just as back and forth as any other politician.

I personally would prefer neither.

Take care all.

[escobert]

"He doesnt force me to love him or hate him. Only thing I hate about Bush is he wont close up are borders, and send several military personal or national guards down there. Terrorists can easily enter are country, and I dont know if he is doing it for votes or what not? I just hate it."

I go through border patrol everyday and I'm 2 hours form the canadian border in VT. I'm going to vote Bush. Because I agree with the war and I also think that he should be able to fish what he started. Also I don't have many problems with his polocies.

[Mr. Graves]

Oh, I'm definitely voting Kerry in the next election.

I agree with everything eest said.

[Jebus]

Two words: Patriot Act.

Even though it wasn't Bush's idea at first, that alone is enough for me to want him and his administration out of office. At this point I'd vote for a pack of Tic-Tacs before I even thought of re-electing that facist mental-deficient. [/rant]

[Rye]

I'm going to have to agree with Tsunami Bren. I'd rather have a president who actually thinks things over than just rushes boldy. I've watched this thing on MTV where the teens and young adults asked John Kerry about where he stands on certain things, and I like how it sounds.

[The Captain]

I can't understand what the deal is with regards to Kerry throwing his medals, ribbons, whatever, away. He went to Vietnam, fought, came back disillusioned and decided that he didn't support the war. He has ever right to feel the way he does because he actually went through it first, THEN made his choice.

Take care all.

[DocFrance]

Coming back from Viet Nam disillusioned and unsupportive of the war is all fine and dandy - everyone has the right to an opinion. Throwing his medals on the White House lawn is fine as well - though disrespectful - as long as he wasn't still on active duty, which he wasn't. Although, it did seem to be more of a political stunt when he was running for Senator.

The main beef is that, when he thought he needed more supporters, he became wishy-washy on the issue - he figuratively picked up those same medals and wore them with "the pride of a veteran." Again, a political stunt to make himself look like an war hero.

Furthermore, some question how he earned those medals. During his tour in Viet Nam, he claimed three seperate injuries, which led to him earning the Purple Heart medals. After earning three PH's, a soldier is honorably discharged from service and sent home. The injuries themselves, though, could be considered laughable. The doctor who treated his wounds described his shrapnel wound here:

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Some think that he was really just weasling his way out of fulfilling his duty. I know I do.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I see the actions of Bush as ignorant at best, evil at worst. So many things he does do not make sense to me from logical OR moral standpoints. I cannot bring myself to support the man.

[The Man]

I can't say that I'd rather have anyone but Bush, but that's just about the truth. I'm definitely voting Kerry, even though there're a few people I'd rather have as president than him.

Better the evil you know than the evil you don't.

Depends on how bad the evil we know is. Bush is bad enough that I'm willing to vote for the evil I don't know, because there's a significant chance that Kerry will be better.

I think the two-party system needs to be annihilated, though, but I don't think it's ever going to happen.

Edit:

None of them are. Its just I think Bush is doing a good job and the economy is just recovering, let the man finish the job he started. Id be so dissapointed though if Kerry wins this election, because he looks like a two-face person with his lies. But then again both not all perfect, then again no one is..

And Bush has been perfectly truthful with us? Rrrrright.

"Honest politician" is as much an oxymoron as "good soap opera."

[The Captain]

Call me crazy DocFrance, but was that site you posted, a Conservative website? Just curious.

Take care all.

[DocFrance]

Call me crazy DocFrance, but was that site you posted, a Conservative website? Just curious.

Take care all.

I don't know. I just read the article. Your point?

[The Captain]

Could be biased. I noticed an ad for a Reagen T-shirt.

Take care all.

[DocFrance]

It's hard to be biased when you're describing exact things, like measurements and treatments.

[Besimudo]

It is irrelevant if Bush had covert plans for oil, the fact is he addressed a serious problem. As Von Clausovitz in On War wrote "if diplomacy fails, then go to war". It seems that insulting the Bush administration has become a popular "lefty sub-culture" soon everyone will be acting cool and protesting on the streets.


In the end, if you are an American and support democracy - then vote for Bush. The Democratic party had two terms with the Clinton admin...So it is only fair that the Bush republican party should have two terms.

Next term (that is not this election but the next election) vote for the Democratic party … and so on.