"In the end, if you are an American and support democracy - then vote for Bush. The Democratic party had two terms with the Clinton admin...So it is only fair that the Bush republican party should have two terms."
That's a dangerous thought.
Take care all.
Yeah, a real man would have gotten his purple heart like Bush did, by... what? Oh.
"In the end, if you are an American and support democracy - then vote for Bush. The Democratic party had two terms with the Clinton admin...So it is only fair that the Bush republican party should have two terms."
...You're an idiot, I'm sorry. That's no reason to vote for ANYONE.
I wasn't talking about Bush - I was talking about Kerry. I despise Kerry, but that doesn't mean I think Bush is a saint. I just think he's better than Kerry.Originally Posted by Doomgaze
Actually, I probably shouldn't be discussing this. It's not very professional of me to voice my political opinions in an open forum like this, especially since most of you know my occupation.
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
On the contrary, it should be encouraged for you to do so. It's what this country is based on.
Don't make personal comments about somebody based on their beliefs. Show some respect please.
It's hard to be biased when you're describing exact things, like measurements and treatments. ~DocFrance
No, not at all. It's hard to lie about facts, but it's not hard to be biased.
Take that incident. What if, say, Kerry's CO had ordered him to go for treatment? What if there was a high risk of infection (there's a high enough risk with a small cut in the water in the UK, nevermind in Vietnam)? It's easy for websites like that, which obviously have a very strong opinion on political matters, to miss certain truths, or present things in such a way as to make things seem much worse.
Don't trust propaganda.
Yes, but as a military serviceman, I've forgone some of those rights voluntarily. As long as I wear the uniform of my country, I cannot publicly endorse or support any particular political stance. The American armed forces are politically neutral.
He could have been ordered to receive treatment for his injuries, but no one could order him to accept the three Purple Hearts. If I went over to Iraq right now, stubbed my toe on a rock, scraped my knee on the floor, and nicked myself while shaving, I could receive three Purple Hearts for my injuries and be sent home immediately. While it would be perfectly legal to do that, it would really be just a way of weasling out of my duties as a volunteer.
Take what you want from the article and what I've said - I can't make you believe or agree with any of it.
Last edited by DocFrance; 05-06-2004 at 08:02 PM.
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
George Bush changes his view on just as many things as Kerry. It just so happens that the Bush administration has decided to whine about this apparent "waffling" (nice use of a word that doesn't apply to the situation, idiots...). I think Bush is an inept retard, not fit for ruling this country. I mean, his SAT score was low as hell, my brother got higher than he did. I'd at least like a president who tried in school.
Example of inabillity to make a decision on Bush's part - stem cell research. Bush took the easy, middle, 'please everyone' route.
That doesn't make any sense at all. That's not the principle American democracy was founded upon in the first place, and it's never operated that way. There's no reason to start now. The whole point of American democracy is that you're supposed to vote for who you think would be better suited for the office. These days, I don't think it would take much to be better suited for the office of President than Bush is.
Given that he backed up his claims of idiocy with reasoning, I think it was perfectly okay. Or are we no longer allowed to call examples of idiocy by name?
I'm not positive, but I think that in times of war, Presdients tend to be kept, just because of the whole "Don't change horses midstream" idea. Look at FDR for example.
Or are we no longer allowed to call examples of idiocy by name? --The Man
No one was ever allowed to to begin with, so there's no "no longer" about it. Show how the argument is wrong, and there's no need to say "you're an idiot". We're going to start cracking down on that kind of thing. End of discussion please.
We certainly didn't do that that in Vietnam, which I'd say is by far more comparable to the current situation than World War II, considering how much of the country didn't support Vietnam.
I wasn't asking about calling people idiots either, I was asking about calling people's logic idiocy. But whatever.
Last edited by The Man; 05-06-2004 at 09:36 PM.
Viet Nam was also a complete and utter political failure.
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
A lot of people would argue the same about Iraq.
But we're still in Iraq. It's not a failure until we've given up.
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
My point is that we still changed presidents in the middle of Vietnam. Unless my memory, as it has often been prone to doing, has failed me again.
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